NWB - Community Blog

how about a free bar?

Stoppin the childish Bickering and snide comments will help plus BANNING some complete wind up merchants of late

They would soon be noticed regardless of their guise by their idiotic posts

Leopards and spots etc

@social tornado. names to faces is a good idea with a bio. A site I used to be on a bit like myspace had a fakers busted policy to stop random bullying and spamming. When you had been assigned your profile url, you wrote this url and profile name on a card or paper with a marker then took a photo with yourself holding the card as proof you are who you say you are.

p.s. I like the status/tweet idea. And the paid membership as you say would weed out the wallies

well basicly if only bands and venues etc were allowed to post in a seperate gig section ,purely for that reason ,then we wont get a clogged up area ehh ? then as we discussed 2 weeks back Paul ,the off topic section is then for all , ie play pen witha better name, but again a seperate section completely

@Paul , as we discussed 2 weeks ago , The social chat side is still a very important section of this site , remember you did say we would still have this on the new one !!!!!!!
Love it or hate it its needed or NWB doesnt do anymore than other gig listing sites, thats why its popular mate !

Totally agree then everything in its own ickle slot/page and only viewable if you click their relevant tabs ,makes everything so much tidier.

so where is it ,want it now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol

reverting back to the nwb 1 format-ie: "private" blogs on profiles, accesible only by "friends" would allow for a wide range of subject matter. i really liked the "shouts" facility, too-allowed for info to be spread quickly and easily, plus it was directed at people who had relevance to the author (fans/venues etc.) or they could be purely "tongue in cheek", but, because only "friends" saw them rarely could offence be taken..
the "community blog" could be purely for info of potential interest to all-gig reviews, venue changes, etc.

The play pen wasnt used because of its name , and also the format was shite ! end of really

@mr nwb. yeah I remember NWB Shouts, friends ones showed up on your own profile and logged in page, it was good. I like a lot of the old nwb stuff, it was good to see a bands pics or hear some music without having to click through to myspace or other. Looking forward to NWB 2.0 anyway.

so what are you saying then , the likes of me , Viking, Keef,Ian, etc etc were all of the same mentality as you put it ?

Paul ,dont make this site like any other gigguide it will die a death
Only my opinion tho ST,but i trust lots of others to !

ahem- i rather liked the name "play pen"-"growing old is compulsory-growing up is optional"!!! my dificulty with it was that i'm an old buffer-all these new techy things take me a long time to work out.
@ mr nwb-d'ya reckon,, now you've had a lot more -ermmm-practice?-some of those previous features could be incorporated into nwb2.1?

One of the main features or should i say rules to be applied in the t&c's is to stop all the petty rivalry of genre against genre and your in that gang and we arent shite, that is what brings this site to boiling points and that is what the Mods should be monitoring more,ie stamp it out !

@ social tornado-as far as some of the "technology of today" is concerned-definitely a "duffer"!!!i have trouble with my mobile phone. :-)

@ST. I am just like a lovely old Jack Russell I love everyone and love to have ne belly scratched But if Im crossed i will bite yer arse to !

Love and Peace to All
Thats Me

ps, wife says i smell like one to ! lol

There may well be a number of reasons why the play pen did not take off.
And ST and Bass Bloke to compare my mentality to Vikings is rather humbling !!

@ keef-awwww-shucks-*blushhhh*!!! (slaver, dribble. mumble!!) lol!!:-)(errm-i think?)

I agree ST, but as it will be paid membership then it becomes a Task for Paul to please all potential Customers ,and to hear what they want from their fee's be it large or small is irrelevant, its what the customer wants in the end !

tbh I have been posting in the blogs as to get the discussions running but a forum is the way forward in my opinion. I am a member of at least 50 sites and use the forums for communication with others and get involved. All forums are setup the same. A community blog should be for promotion purposes be it gigs/bands/important info etc. General discussions should always be in the forums. And I will refer to my previous Classic Rock Blog - Evolution is the way forward for everyone which ever way you look at it. Paul cant cater for technofobes or dinasaurs they went extinct about the same time as ........No I am not gonna say it as I am going off topic. But we have to move forward . Maybe we should have a young v old techno workshop you guys can show me how to play rock and ill show you lot how to use a forum or even a mobile.!!!!

Ha Ha ! i was on topic , it was you who replied to what i wanted on the new site .
But i love you anyway
Coz thats just me , i love everyone !

So come on , surely there more idea's You all !

Always like to get yer digs in tho ehh , even tho we aint on a forum

nb thats to hulkamania78

@ hulkamania78-"Paul cant cater for technofobes or dinasaurs they went extinct about the same time as ........No I am not gonna say it as I am going off topic. But we have to move forward . Maybe we should have a young v old techno workshop you guys can show me how to play rock and ill show you lot how to use a forum or even a mobile.!!!! "
i expect you support euthanasia too, h'mmmmmm???? :-/

Viking , pissin in the wind comes to mind

Speaking personally, Where I am located might as well be on the other side of the planet from most of you guys on here and the music I usually play is a bit less "head down, ears bleed, brain frazzled" than a lot of you BUT:
This is a great community full of people who are willing to give advice freely, opinion openly, and help and support gladly. I use this site for those reasons and really enjoy the banter, humour and the general craic in a lot of the blogs. Serious points are raised and discussed mostly with good grace and humour and everything from weather reports to building applications are noted.
Please be careful this does not become a humourless hard nosed rockers site ( not all rockers are hard nosed ok?..before you start!)
I will gladly pay a subscription fee to keep up with what is happening on the other side of the world (I'm in Cheshire!) and for the help and advice I've received in the short time I have been here and I am really looking forward to the new version, but lets not lose the fun eh?
I love rock and roll..put another gin in the Duke Bocks baby!

@ social tornado-@Viking - you're a top bloke, a true gent, not very tech savvy and prone to going off topic in your own inimitable way. Off to the playpen for you dammit!! We should name it Viking's Playpen."
why, thank you, young sir (errm- i think?lol!!)-however-no way do i want responsability for this lot-they're nearly as bad as me?!;-D

Well proofs in the pudding aint it so we will see ! regardless it seems to what some of us have to say !

@Mr Nwb will there be a trial period of the new site for users to see if its what they want ?

well thats alright then, I can sleep soundly now ;0)

Thats reassuring Paul ,and thanks for the reply, as i said weeks ago ,the band section will be excellent for most bands etc ,but still worth the fee regardless, ie hosting pics ,Band profiles, mp3 etc etc,and as you know Paul this has never been my issue and was a suggestion by me back to the play pen Era/Scandal ,lol

Im gettin old mate , just need some normality after a days graft !

I'm sure the new version is going to be far better than this version,it's time for change, i think this version has run its course, things have become stale and quite frankly boring on here. I really liked the very first version of NWB with the music etc, I used to enjoy listening to what the other bands sounded like and adding them to the playlist.
Also its about time bands stopped plugging the weekly gig, I'm sure people are quite capable of using the gig guide, but once one band posts, then there feels a need for everyone else to do it, so the return of the "shout" will be a welcome feature.
The one thing that is needed more than anything else on here is more Fans, we have bands, we have venues, but where are the fans?
Anyway bored again now lol

@ steve wolf-you got me bro!!(oh-point taken!!(lol!!)

exactly, where are all the Vikings, the fans having their say, "the man on the street" so to say.

@ steve wolf-the sense that i get from various "chats" i have is that, sometimes, "fans" feel a bit shut out by concentrated "muso talk"-will be good if the new site has a section purely for musos and bands to discuss technical things?

@ viking- yep I agree, the new site should be made more "fan" friendly if thats possible, so we can hear from "the man in the street" so to say. Reviews from people who are not in it for gain.

@ steve wolf-there is room for both, i hope,bro-the "shouts" were excellent-could convey gig dates and so much more? ;-)?

The Music used to be one of the main features for me, listening to bands doing covers (some good,some not) and some great originals (which i wish i'd recorded now). Although the chart got a bit silly with artists playing their tunes every hour to get themselves to no.1.
Roll on the new version

@ steve wolf-yeah-really liked having the ability to put music on my profile-gave a good cross sectional flavour of what was happening "on site"? ;-)

you could also see that some bands/fans genuinely liked someone elses music, not just pluggin their own!

for people to respect each others views opinions and music taste.

i disagree with quite a few things seen on here lately but i dont see the need to try and force my own view back on them

and the jokes even if re-occuring help towards the community spirit,
and if some one keeps saying what a great gig they had, adding in jokes to their pals blogs, bigging themselves up etc etc then so what wheres the harm, just let people be for ***** sake.

for example i have become friends with the Viking thru friends of friends and our mutual like of classic rock and metal and thru a similar innuendo laden sense of humour, not because were both in some kind of clique.

example 2 i have become friends with Keef thru here due to his balanced opinions and yes the same like of classic rock music amongst many others, i met Keef last week and he is a total gent and a really nice guy

the jokes ,banter and blogging even if it veers off topic make all this kind of thing happen.

Don't know if this is part of the plan Mr. NWB but are there going to be restrictions in place for non-paying members as far as being able to contact venues and vise-versa? If so, how will this be implemented.

My point being that the ability to communicate 'directly' with the venues on here, in my opinion, outweighs an 'enhanced' profile. That's not to say we won't be paying the fee, after all this site has been a massive help in our development as a band. What I'm saying is is look after those who are paying the fee, for example, if a venue creates a blog looking to book bands then perhaps have a system where as the paying members see the blog first then non-paying members see it a few days later...I don't know I'm just thinking off the top of my head here.

I look forward to hearing your comments.

Cheers
Dean.

I imagine that Paul will set the permissions so that venues can post that they are looking for a band under 'band needed' like they do now and that only paid up bands will be able to view that category of post.

Would venue contact details be made available to fully paid up members only? An idea.

As far as non-paying people whizzing off PM's to venues and snaffling gigs, I also imagine that private messages would be available to / between paid members only, as messages use up server space and therefore incur a potential cost.

I'm sure Paul will clarify that, but it sounds like what is going to be in place from earlier posts on here.

One suggestion I'd make is either a sticky or notice board for information like unsigned nights (when and where) or when bands are available or venues have free slots perhaps? It'd be handy to have that information in one place, rather than trawling the blogs.

first of all, STOP over-moderating.. you create more bad will by deleting people's posts than letting them stand and allowing the readers to decide for themselves whether the person is full of BS or not

secondly, make what you already have SIMPLER and MORE EFFECTIVE before you start adding any more features... no thought appears to have been given to WHY anyone would need 50 'Hot Posts' down the right hand side of every page... there's too much 'stuff' over the site & it's not easy to use.. before you start adding features, make the presentation of what you already have better... too many big long lists of text

the best thing you could do is make the 'Gig Guide' more user friendly... think about it from a user's perspective... people usually want to know what bands are on in their area, maybe that night... I have to trawl down a huge list on a Saturday night, trying to pick out the 4-5 places locally that have a band on... why not allow the user to put in their postcode & the day they want, and it'll give them gigs at venues, listed by distance? trivial compared to some of the dev stuff that's been done... but would be really useful... it'd also be relatively easy to create a Google map with markers on showing that evening's bands and where they are... at the moment it's 'death by list'... you have loads of fantastic data, loads of talent to work with that data but not much thought has been given to presenting it in a format that'll actually be useful to people

SIMPLIFY the whole thing... don't just add more stuff on top of what's already there.. what you've got is 'developer design', where more is more

it's absolutely great that someone has put all this work in to create this, but the user experience needs addressing...

@Steve Dixon:

To be fair to Paul, he seems to do very little in the way of blog deletion. If you start a blog, you can select which replies from within it to delete - which I suspect is what happens.

I personally deleted a whole set of what could be seen to be racist remarks about the landlady / landlord of The Stocks in Walkden. I started that blog and when it got out of hand, I put a stop to it.