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Interesting point hulk. Kind of agree with you a tiny bit but having watched a really good punk band last night I've realised that it's perhaps not as easy. Don't get me wrong, musically there's not a great deal going on but to get the band sounding tight, hitting all those stops and breaks, most of time at about 100 miles an hour is pretty tricking. It's easy to do something hard badly, but very difficult to do something easy brilliantly. I can't really comment on the classic rock side of stuff but to my knowledge you need to have a certain level of profficiency to handle some of them tunes. Indie-wise I don't think bands like us get enough credit, especially a really good one like THE FIX. bands like arctic monkeys, kasabian, the fratellis, tlsp etc are making some really interesting music and it's great fun to play, I love the newer stuff in our set (and we will be doing fast fuse soon as well pal, bet I sing it better! ;-P
all in all there's probably an argument for both sides

I don't even think this is 'your' opinion Hulk tbh, just another attention seeking blog (just my opinion tho eh).

You know what mate, I really wish you'd have been at our gig at the White Hart last night, twas electric. Chords don't even come into it; its supposed to be a passion for the songs you play. The raw energy and the way that gets tranferred over to your audience. That feeling is second to none irrelevant of how many feckin chords there are.

And I'm sorry but 'Use Somebody' and 'Fast Fuse' are putting "old" music to shame? Err..right ok then!

putting live music under a microscope isnt always a good idea live musics never about whos the best musician, you could wheel in hundreds of singers with a greater vocal range than Elvis but with none of his charisma, you could equally find dozons of guitarists with a greater knowledge of music than Hendrix , but with none of the "vibe" that Hendrix created, dismissing genres of music becasue they ar easy to play is missing the point of live music, its more about entertainment than musicanship, thats the differance between a gig and a recietal, but i understand the point your making !

I think the best wind ups are when you're not sure whether the person is serious or not

No hulk your right, I am shit and maybe I should give it up BUT then again I have got time to practice and get better haven't I. I unlike yourselve do not have the age barrier staring me in the face. Your recent posts have the whiff of an old, worn down, pathetic man desperately firing shots as he slowly loses his battle with age, trading on past glories as well hulk? There's nowt worse.
So you carry on pal, unlike you, this time next year I'll still be SINGING in a band. Catch

Right Hulk I've read it again and your original post still says:

"We have been learning Use Somebody and Fast Fuse this week both Rock based indie songs but with so much more going on they are putting old music to shame."

Then in your reply you say "No there not putting it to shame" - make your mind up.

Hulk I presume you're in band then right, but I don't see any links or reference in your profile?? Would it be possible to post a link to your website or anywhere where we can make our own judgements.

You can't criticise other bands and not have the balls to let people see yours in action.

Love it!!!!!! Hulk you are sooooo desperate to prove your worth as a musician, a member of whatever, a member of nwb and just a member but we all know there's only one person being carried around here and that's the jumped up "31" year old singer, with the flacid physique and dilusions of WWF stardom. I'd tell you to grow up pal but you already have. catch

Dont repy t the guys posts then yer just givin him more ammo!!!!

Ahh I didnt know you were the singer from Whatever - listened to your myspace demos a while back, you have a good sound and a decent voice....its a shame you dont talk about your band more often it might gain you a little more respect.

You're band mates must have the patience of saints.

Hmmm. Assuming you're being serious then I have to disagree. A lot of the music that is simple in format still needs playing well. Many bands play oversimplified versions of some of the 3-4 chord songs. How many bands do you see where the bassist just plays the root notes of the chords rather than playing the authentic bassline (eg She Sells Sanctuary, Ever Fallen In Love), or the guitarist misses out certain open strings that are supposed to ring through chord changes on an Iggy/Stooges song?
Jon

the Wish you were here album was recorded on 8 tracks because the band didn't rust the tape to hold 16 tracks (16 track had only just come out) compare it with most new stuff which has the benefit of unlimited digital tracks, VSTs, you would expect it to be more complicated. However, from what I have heard of a lot of modern music i.e. Killers, Franz Ferdinand, Greenday, Kaiser Chiefs etc all they succedd in creating is a wall of noise which is usually very badly produced and far from complicated. And I have noticed Musicians who accuse others of fret wanking are usually those who can't do it themselves. Which is a bit like me telling Ryan Giggs he's a shit footballer

the sugar bullets were ace last night, i watched them, and also, ive been to watch the damned a few times, and though i dont think they are at there best these days,but, in their day i.e. 78/79/80 they were effing awsome,and captain sensible was one of the best guitarists i ever saw, just my opinion, but some musicians would not be able to play punk because they dont understand the punk scene, it was just not about the music, it was a movement and a attitude, guess you had to be there to comment on it !!!

does it really matter how many fekkin chords or whats more difficult.
I think ya can over-analyse.

Mark

Captain Sensible is a brill guitarist, I remember the early days of the damned, he was always pissed and still played well.

Mark

mm Whatever? Isn't that the guy who let the band down, left.They got a replacement singer and a keyboard player in who were then both subsequently unceremoniously fired via email when the original singer decided he wanted to come back?

i dont know, the damned had so many comings and goings and different line ups, but like dresden north end said, does it really matter, if your good your are good,its as simple as that, in my humble opinion.

Too true ride on.
I think the comments came from a rehearsal we had as stated.
Some tunes as stated have the trusted intro verse chorus bridge solo etc.
Some have more stop starts etc and can take longer to learn and get tight between the band.
If a song sounds good no matter what, end of in my opinion.

Aiden

hmmm, Use Somebody........3 chords. Fast Fuse.......3 chords, no widdly widly solos but an astoundingly boring lyric line and melody in my opinion

Some points to consider:

1. Some people on here are wayyy too precious. It's a fuckin giggle mate. Calm down.
2. We (Whatever!) have got the patience of saints.
3. Whatever happens within the band stays within the band. The comings and goings are nobody elses business and are of no relevance to this blog.
4. We are cross genre legends. We play classic rock/punk/indie/skiffle/jazz/bluegrass anthems. End of.

@hulk " twiddle your banjo" is that considered some kind of insult?? Strange from a band that plays bluegrass anthems amongst others!!
(yeah right!)
Willow

Pointless and inflammatory.

in the words of Withnail

what absolute twaddle.

:-)))))))))))))))))))

You aint got a fuckin clue what you are talking about period !

I really want to play bluegrass but the others wont let me :o( You should hear our skiffle medley ;o)

@Mick/Rob/Trig

+1

Rob

@Mick ... ok I am a bit pointless ... but inflammatory?? moi??
WtF

@Willow, you know perfectly well what I meant you rascal. lol.

Don't make me release the facepalm! ;o)

who gives a flyin fek if ya usin 2 chords or 20, as long as u n punters r enjoyin it thats all that matters!!!!

mmmm read these blogs and I had seen these guys before towards the end of last year and was pretty well entertained both by the overall sound and a frontman who entertained so I took some mates and went to see them recently in Darwen - firstly can I say it's not the same band!!! and I've checked their website and the videos are NOT the band I saw. The current singer is well 'in key sometimes' with no stage presence and the overall sound lacked a decent sound engineer. This band have lost their X factor !!! So be warned.

1. "10 minutes of self indulgent bullshit" Nurse!!! more magic mushrooms required please!

2. @brian Ferry - I wanted to look like Jimi Hendrix, but I could never quite pull it off.

You wanted to sound like Bob Dylan but you did a shit job of that as well. haha

3. @Ian Runciman - Ryan Giggs a shit footballer? nah, just a shit head!

Just a few little tongue in cheek comments guys, lighten up a little eh? It's the Hulks preference to perform challenging material. Nothing wrong with that, it's his choice. Personally I like to practice challenging stuff (the only way to improve your playing) but when I gig I want to relax more and get into the groove.

How's this for a challenging audition?

# Posted by TheMinister - 17/02/2010, 00:45 (GMT)

mmmm read these blogs and I had seen these guys before towards the end of last year and was pretty well entertained both by the overall sound and a frontman who entertained so I took some mates and went to see them recently in Darwen - firstly can I say it's not the same band!!! and I've checked their website and the videos are NOT the band I saw. The current singer is well 'in key sometimes' with no stage presence and the overall sound lacked a decent sound engineer. This band have lost their X factor !!! So be warned.

Hello TheMinister. I'm not sure if you're referring to Whatever! or another band. If you are referring to Whatever! then many thanks for taking the time to leave feedback. May I enquire as to where you saw us play? We always welcome constructive feedback, so maybe next time you can come and say hi. We have had a change of personnel recently but surprisingly, your feedback goes against everything that the venues are telling us. We're getting exceptional feedback from venues and fans on content and quality of performance and sound and lots of repeat bookings (including venues that had refused to book us previously).

And there was me being all polite. Ah fuck it.

Hulk matey.

If anyone says I am a shit singer I agree with them.....



..... And then point out the FACT that I am on stage and they are not. Also that my lack of vocal ability has paid for my six holidays to Florida in the past ten years.....

..... They soon shut the fugg up ;-)

Enjoy whatever you do

Best wishes
John

Ha ha nice one John FV :o)

Once at gig in Barrow.

Audience member " You fat bastard"

Me " Get it right matey FAT RICH bastard"

Exit punter with tail between legs and his mates laughing at him ;-)

Minister you are right we are not the same band and the landlords are very happy about that believe me.
Funnily enough the darwen gig the "new landlord" is dubious about bands at the minute but couldnt give us his mobile number quick enough at the end of the gig.
Guess what we even had people dancing at the so called gig you were at.
Maybe its because they felt safe without an elephant impersonator standing in front of them.
There is a gig in Stcokport next month i want to go to maybe see you there eh?

"Hulkamania man of the people singing out of key but getting paid and getting laid"........that has had me in stitches all afternoon son.

And if by "X Factor" you mean "the ability to skip around like a twat with a tambourine singing scottish lyrics to a shit irish jig" then yes, we have lost it....I'm pleased to say.

I'm a little confused. I'm trying to imagine Olive from on the buses doing elephant impressions??? eh?

Hahahaha this is great. If I'd known laundry was getting aired I'd have been out with pegs and pants!

Theres no room left on the line Mick ;o) Get your own!!

lol!

Binned by Email V The Inflatable Frontman. You reckon we could sell tickets? :oO

Ha ha. I know who my money is on lol

it's sumo time again!!! :-0

So........... who's John??
p.s. qouting "Hulkamania man of the people singing out of key but getting paid and getting laid" without including "(by his wife)" .. is not worthy of a quote at all
so ... who's John???
Willow

I'm John and so is my wife lol

Sorry for misquoting Mr Willow sir. Won't happen again.

now now ... don't mess ... who's John??
"Now come on John had a few sherbets and thought what the heck lets stir it up." by hulk

willownothingbettertodo

Hahahahah.I'm Rock and ROLL! Aren't I dear!

I can relate to that. 8o)

John is our old singer who was sacked (yes, via e-mail) and replaced by our old, old singer "the hulk". It would appear that John has a penchant for setting up fake profiles and stirring up trouble.

oh i kinda thought it was (old singer setting up fake profiles ) but had hoped it was something more newsworthy!!

Stand down men!

Willow
:0)

Hahahah. It's not hard to stir up trouble without creating a false profile. If you have to hide behind something (a dalek, for instance?) it can be amusing, but a genuinely cultivated self image is so much funnier.

Look at you culture vultures circling the blogs hoping for something juicy! Claws away bitches! lol

I'm dying to join in this but ain't got a clue wot its about LOL
Can somebody please paraphrase the arguments (if indeed there is any!)

Summary:

Singer gets sacked by e-mail
Band bring back original singer
Sacked singer moans about it all over NWB
Band refuse to be drawn on reasons for sacking (to avoid embarrassment for singer)
Sacked singer creates several fake profiles and tries to stir up shit for band
Band decide to tell singer how shit he really is

and the band is called The Three Chords???
Too complicated for me, but thanks for taking the time to explain LOL

No, the band isn't called The Three Chords, nice play on words though. This started out as a musical blog and turned into a bit of a bun fight unfortunately. I don't generally agree with washing laundry in public, but it does feel good to get things off your chest!

By the way, have you still got those monitors? I'm feeling better now. Might be able to get over at the weekend?

yeh still got the monitors

Ahh the story unfolds finally...so TheMinister dude further up is the ex coming back to rub some dirt in...who got the house & car? lol

Nice one Alec, will defo call you. Is Saturday ok?

@Sugar Bullets - it was a far from amicable split (contrary to our attempts to keep it so) but we ended up with the better deal :o) Have you been waiting for the story to unfold since yesterday, or since the original "sacking by e-mail" blog? lol

Since the sacking by email lol....just being nosey.

Hopefully it can be laid to rest now. I believe in karma and "what goes around, comes around". I also believe I have nothing to worry about :o)