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14 Feb 2010

Sticky Fingers @ The Cheshire Cheese!

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Posted By : DYEHOUSE | Comments : 28

An impartial revue!

Good vibe going here!
mostly down to the Bass and Drums combination which was bouncing to say the least!
Vocalist has an excellent set of lungs on him but can’t dance much better than yer average drunk [keep the bugger still guys its embarrassing?]
Guitarist was also very competent but does what a lot of guitarists do and that's put in his own solos!
This I don’t like as I always feel it's disrespectful to the punters!
The punters are experts on lead solos! They know when it's not right!
Anybody who thinks "they won’t notice the difference" is kidding themselves!

This said don’t be put off! This is rock'in band no mistake!
They kept my interest to the bitter end!
Couldn’t have left early as there was too much of a vibe going on!

Looking for a band for your venue?
You won’t go wrong with these guys!
Get em booked!

G.

Comments

# Posted by Sticky Fingers - 14/02/2010, 13:44 (GMT)

thanks gordon for showing up last night it was good to put a face to the dyehouse voice
thanks for the impartial review of the gig lots to take in on our performace ,would be interested what other guitarists think on your thoughts about solos ,note for note or? anyway thanks again gordon see ya soon bri SF

# Posted by Jason Smith (SIN AFTER SIN gui... - 14/02/2010, 13:54 (GMT)

it depends on the solo, some wonderful songs have terrible guitar solos

# Posted by grooverman - 14/02/2010, 15:10 (GMT)

theres a vid somewhere of Slash playing "beat it" with Jacko and he does is own version of the solo .. one can only speculate why .

# Posted by Whatever! - 14/02/2010, 15:34 (GMT)

Good point but solos dont have to be played note for note.
Surely you can put your own take on them.
I used to play with a shit hot guitarist years ago he could play solo's note for note but wouldn't.
Playing by numbers as he would call it.

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 15:54 (GMT)

Some songs require the solos to be played "as the record". I'm thinking, in particular, "Queen" songs for example, because Brian's playing is very melodic and can be hummed along to...
However, bluesy-type solos in songs can be elaborated upon. The "Paradise City" outro is one were the guitarist can just go "off on one" and do their own thing, as Slash himself does. However! "Sweet Child O'Mine" is too identifiable and must remain as intact as possible...apart from that E harmonic minor lick @ 3:22, when every guitarist I've ever seen (even Slash @ The Roxy '86 gig) gets it "not quite right". LOL ..

Basically, fair dooz if you can nail the solos spot on, but if you can improvise a little bit, why not? When I first went to a Jam Night many moons ago, I played Clapton's "Crossroads" note-for-note, and the guy running it said it was very unusual for someone to learn it in such detail. I assumed (wrongly..poor kid!) that everyone had to play it exactly as the record. I tend to improvise a lot now.. Makes every performance a bit different and special then. :-)

# Posted by "RED ZOO" - 14/02/2010, 16:09 (GMT)

"Vocalist has an excellent set of lungs on him but can’t dance much better than yer average drunk" Whats that? calling someones dancing.. you cant do that..thats like telling a new mum her babys ugly...lol... i get into trouble for 'cutting shapes' however i usually just make the rest of the band laugh, and to quote somebody who said it... dancing is just a vertical expression of a horizontal desire...and if i can get that acrross succesfully then i'll be happy..

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 16:10 (GMT)

By the way! Glad you had a gud'un Bri! ;-)

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 16:41 (GMT)

When I said "Dance" I was being overly polite!
It's more the kind of thing you'd see when someone's on Acid at a Rave party?
But the guy can really sing!
I'd work with him no problem but I'd show him a video first of what he looks like when he's performing?
If that didn't work I'd strap him to an upturned table!!!

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 16:48 (GMT)

Everybody will have an opinion on whether or not to put the extra effort in and learn the correct lead solo! but at the end of the day I can tell you from my experience that punters really appreciate hearing it done properly!
You’re going out as a covers band and you don’t change the main structure of the song, so why change the lead solo???
those who do this should maybe go out as a Jazz impro covers band???

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 17:03 (GMT)

G! Do you have any particular favourite solos you do in your set?

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:16 (GMT)

no!

# Posted by Duke Bocks - 14/02/2010, 17:23 (GMT)

picky git G, I expect you want every bloody guitar intro to be spot on as well !!..;0)

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 17:25 (GMT)

Fair Dooz G. LOL

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 17:28 (GMT)

Bet your "Sweet Child O'Mine" isn't as good as this one!?

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# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:31 (GMT)

Nar! but I know what punters say to me about it and if you consider how much time and effort that goes into the construction of a lead solo on these "classic" tracks that we all adore then you have to look and listen objectively to your improvised lead solo and draw your own conclusion as to it's place in that song?
The majority of impro solo's you hear just don't fit the song?
Fret Wanking I believe is the correct term?

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:32 (GMT)

Andy your splitting mi converse yer bugger?

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:36 (GMT)

how did you find that bloody thing Andy you've got far to much spare time on yer hands?
get a wife and suffer with the rest!

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 17:37 (GMT)

Sorry G, can't type back. I'm doing a squeaky solo!

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:39 (GMT)

He's wandering from the solo to the lead vocal line?
fkin amateur!

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:40 (GMT)

anyway Andy aren't you a bassist?
there opinion dont count ! get yer coat!

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 17:40 (GMT)

I know! He must have learnt it from one of those "SuperTab" books! LOL

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:43 (GMT)

I thought the Supertab was for armpit players?

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 17:44 (GMT)

I play bass with the Lazzies, but I've been playing guitar for longer. About 20 years guitar and 12 years for bass.. I'm that rare breed of guitarist...the one that treats bass with respect. b-bum ;-)

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:45 (GMT)

As do I Andy!
only messin mate!
a good bassit is worth ten fret wankers!

# Posted by AndyBassOrGuitar - 14/02/2010, 17:46 (GMT)

Sorry I missed ya @ The Griffin by the way! We were gigging. I would have been down otherwise.

# Posted by DYEHOUSE - 14/02/2010, 17:59 (GMT)

what ya put that on fer?
There's no solo's in that?
Sticky Fingers guitarist was at that I believe?

# Posted by Naked - 17/02/2010, 22:35 (GMT)

I'm with Red Zoo on the dancing thing. Anyway I wouldn't strictly call it dancing just moving to the music cos I was that singer. Just don't say it was out of time!

# Posted by The Cottonhouse Shakers - 17/02/2010, 22:49 (GMT)

I prefer the ORIGINAL band not to do solos as they were recorded. There are exceptions to the rule notably when the solo is playing a strong melody which is a big part of the song. People like Dave Gilmour, Toni Iommi and Steven Rothery are good examples of this.

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