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A sad day indeed guys but its not "forever", its "just for now"! Make sure you keep in touch, if only to take the piss on here!!
Venues like the Welly and management like Donna & Darren are very few and far between. It was a pleasure to play there and we'll look forward to supporting them in the future... whenever that may be!

All the best,
John

bugger-real sorry to hear that people. you've been a mainstay on here for so long? what will you do?:-(

Dont say the K word !!!!

Kipper? Khaki? Kuwait?

@ Donna, never had the pleasure, but followed your antics on here and always sad to see a venue close it's doors to the wonderful world of Live Music. Here's hoping you get up and running again soon.

Alyerpal

karaoke and kippers for breakfast!!! seriosly though hope you can get bands back soon.

It's a shame and we witnessed your plight last week. I really hope it's not the end as you and Darren made us really welcome and the few that were in obviously enjoy your venue. Good luck for the future
Graham

Hi Donna dal'in,

After speaking to you and Darren on this very topic not long back I know how this has to be gut wrenching decision for you both!
Fear not , it's not the end of the world and not absolute end of having bands on at your place!
things can change week by week in the licencing trade!
Most importatly of all is how many friends you've made from all the bands that have had the honour to play for you!
You're a great couple and well respected and I for one hope to see you out and and about at the gigs wherever they are!

G.

Well bugger me..the week before we're on LOL
Never mind...hope you're gonna keep on here, and who knows? when circumstances change for the better you can always start again....thanks for giving it a try anyway...shame you weren't better supported

So sorry
best of luck

Mark

So sorry to hear this. It was great to meet you both and play at your pub. Take care, hope to see you both again,

Rick, Nikki, Luke and Terry

The 45's.

Was a pleasure to play at the Welly...
Good luck to you & Darren...

THE SUGAR BULLETS

Good luck to both of you. Your enthusiasm should be an example to a lot of venues. :o)

Hey, here's a thought.

You could always offer to play for free!


No? No, I din't think so

@Dalek, fair enough, you collect all the gear, load it up, get us and the gear to the venue, buy all our beers, pack up and load up the gear, take us all for a keeebab, then take us all home and unload the gear and we will consider doin the gig for free !

Please don't ruin this (albeit temporary) farewell to The Wellington by clambering all over the Dalek's obvious attempt to bait. Ignore him.

ST - might be worth having the mods delete his post so it doesn't escalate...

"# Posted by Socialtornado - 20/05/2010, 09:14 (GMT)

Please don't ruin this (albeit temporary) farewell to The Wellington by clambering all over the Dalek's obvious attempt to bait. Ignore him."

Well said.

Donna, you have our full support and I encourage you to delete all and any argumentative posts in this thread.

So sorry to hear it, we were looking forwards to rockin your rafters in August.
Another time hopefully.
Sincere best wishes to you both,I understand completely.

Chris and the Catdog crew

I just don't understand it.
A venue is struggling, yet none of you will help it by reducing your fee, even though you say you don't do it for money.

At least you'd keep live music going there, so it wouldn't be a struggle to build it up when they start doing it again.

It just proves once and for all that you're all just in it for the money.

can hear the sound of tumbleweed in the breeze

good luck for the future - didnt have the chance to meet you guys but did notice your positive enthusiasm towards live music and this site!
hope it isnt too long before you can get up and running again and doing what you enjoy x

This is sad news, all the best for the future to D&D. Hope better times come soon.

There seems to be a lot of it about at the moment.

Louis

Don't want to get this blog into trouble ... BUT ... my first thought on reading this blog was something along the lines of "I wonder if a few of the bands who've been booked regularly by The Wellie or the people who run it (and there appears to be quite a few) would be prepared to do a night for exes (real exes - petrol money, say £50, and a few beers) so they could continue a music night say once a month" 6 bands would only have to do 2 gigs in a year and this MAY contribute to keeping a venue open and alive.

No flaming please - it was a genuine thought - if you don't agree don't be nasty!! eeeeek!!

Willowstickingheadup

# Posted by dalek loves garlic - 20/05/2010, 09:50 (GMT)

I just don't understand it.
A venue is struggling, yet none of you will help it by reducing your fee, even though you say you don't do it for money.

At least you'd keep live music going there, so it wouldn't be a struggle to build it up when they start doing it again.

It just proves once and for all that you're all just in it for the money.


B*ll*x!

Live music won't save a pub, only people spending money at the bar will.

only THE DOCTOR can save you

back on Skaro only original music is allowed or face the wrath of Davros

@ Dalek.

I do it for the money.

@ The Welly

Fair play to you for having a go. And for going about cancelling in the right way!

Gareth

another dalek

dalek loves garlic
dalekloves garlic

that's three now

Willow

"Don't want to get this blog into trouble ... BUT ... my first thought on reading this blog was something along the lines of "I wonder if a few of the bands who've been booked regularly by The Wellie or the people who run it (and there appears to be quite a few) would be prepared to do a night for exes (real exes - petrol money, say £50, and a few beers) so they could continue a music night say once a month" 6 bands would only have to do 2 gigs in a year and this MAY contribute to keeping a venue open and alive.

No flaming please - it was a genuine thought - if you don't agree don't be nasty!! eeeeek!! "


See, someone agrees with me, at last. It's what I;ve been saying all along

willows suggestion was a sensible one, yours was just an attempt to cause an argument.

why dont you suggest donna and darren give away free beer to all the punters? they've invested time and money in their business - so the bands have invested time and money in their hobbies.

i actually agree with Willow - you, however, have once again proved what a total cock you are

Mick

Hang on a minute guys, it's not just about playing for reduced fees or even for free...the fact is live bands haven't worked for this particular venue ie, brought extra punters/business to the pub, and that's no disrespect to Donna & Darren.

You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

I suggested a few months ago that the bands from NWB should give something back to the pubs that book them on a regular basis by way of a Charity day - bands playing for free and supported by NMB members. The pubs I mentioned included The Wellington Hotel but no one ran with it.

In the meantime, Dave Trig and myself organised one for the Hindley Arms which was hugely successful for The Bands, The Venue and the charity and gave the locals and NWB members who attended the event, a cracking day out,

Rick.

ps, any takers? ( including DLG )

Tell you what Dalek, you organise an event and our band will play. Genuine offer, no bull.

Fancy it? This would be an opportunity to walk the walk.

RSVP
Louis

@SB - "ST - might be worth having the mods delete his post so it doesn't escalate... "

Too late. If I had my way, every post back to the one just before Dalek entered would be deleted as it detracts from the original blog.

Well said ST.

Will you people PLEASE desist from biting? This blog is not the appropriate place for it at ALL.

DrumBloke said - Live music won't save a pub, only people spending money at the bar will.

Its true,hopefully the world cup will help a little,i wish the best of luck to Donna&Darren and hope the Welly gets back to playing bands what ive seen on here its a great place to play at!

Darren

All the best to the both of you, sign of the times, but the best of luck for the future.

Never played your venue but best wishes for the future guys.

Hope it works out for you

Best wishes

John

hi donna,darren, we wil keep our sleepin bags handy just in case lol.. wish u all the best for the future n hopefully c u both out & about, love shazza n dakota x

We'll do ya a free gig if it'll help
happy to support a loyal venue.
Just giz a shout if ya need us

Mark

We were booked in at The Wellington soon and were gutted to have lost yet another venue. I'm sure Donna & Darren did their best and I'm gutted for them too.....I hope things pick up for them and maybe in the future they can attract enough punters to justify paying our extortionate fees BUT how can anyone compete with the likes of ASDA selling beer at 50p a can.....I posted a blog early this year expressing my fears for 2010 and unfortunately I'm being proven right.....We've had 7 SEVEN venues close down on us this year already.....
Maybe the bands aren't good enough to attract people...?????
Maybe people are bored with too many bands playing the same old tunes....?????
Maybe the pubs have priced ordinary people out (£3.00 a pint)
Hundreds of reason why this is happening.....
Either way, it's getting tougher to succeed in this game.
Good luck to us all and be the best you can be....only the strongest will survive.
Gary

Mark Dresden
I don't think a 'free' gig is the answer.....they need to attract more people....you could play for free and still play to an empty house....although If I'm free I would come to support this great gesture.....

LGIT & Dresden double header
That'll f'kin empty the place

Mark

Without intending to spark controversy...

We used to play a pub in Accrington every wednesday night (yes, some of you may be able to place me quite quickly). We did this for nothing (not strictly true as we put a "tips jar" on the bar that'd haul in over £40 most nights) and, although I hear what Donna says (and thanks for the gigs we did at the Welly Donna, you and Darren were great hosts) about not expecting bands to play for nothing we had a kind of rationale for this.

Firstly we didn't have to pay to rehearse, OK we had to get the gear there but we would have to do that no matter whether rehearsing or gigging. Secondly we got gig tight - I'm sure I'm not the only one who believes that rehearse all you like, doing it in front of people is very different. Thirdly we had a hard core of people (some actually continue to turn up at gigs from Tod to Manchester via the Welly) which for an originals band trying to develop a following is quite important and finally we got to test new material out on a regular clientele who could use the thumbs up/down approach to make sure that as songs developed they did so with an element of feedback.

Playing for free, or putting bands on for no fee, may not be everyone's idea of fun or fair play but I thought it may be of use to put forward a slightly perspective - OK some points perhaps only applicable to originals bands.

My limited experience on/exposure to this forum suggests I'll get some stick for this post, but hey, if you have a different opinion then whatever, it worked for us...

Totally agree with you mate on the above, certainly for origional or new cover bands.

Rick.

Mark Dresden NE
Ha ha ha, we'd empty a 'deaf' home between us.....
I'll be at the first DNE gig I can get to matey.....
G

a very honest and sincere blog, sorry to hear youre having to do that,m all the best for the future

a shame as always some of this blog has been turned into another subject, ice lollies needed methinks to cool things down :-(

mmmmm, ice lollies.... sorry, what was the question again? :p

John

Sorry to lose you guys - we loved playing there