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Of course, you know what you really should do bro. ;o)

If you must have individual pedals, let me know. I have some I might part with. :o)

Hi ady when I had my 6505(5150) head I used a boss rv3 delay/reverb , I've had 2 dd3 pedals which have crapped out so I'd avoid em but a dd5,6 or 7 is superb, also if u can find a zoom 507 or 508 they sound superb and the spec is amazing( ignore the zoom 508s with hank marvin presets cos they go for silly money, I think with valve amps when they have that great tone it's good to keep it quite pure with icing on the cake, I think u have a superb sound dude, I have the delay dilemma for years, just sold my boss gt6 and gone back to the "jeff beck" approach whenever I use my jvm instead of pod xt live

happy hunting!

The jeff beck approach being a guitar, amp and a couple of little boxes, that's all, whenever iv complicated things I've always gone back to my boss pedals,

Hi Dakota - what's your multi FX pedal and what's your amp?

First - play around with multi FX before you buy anything new...if I know the make and model I can probably help.


Whilst you're getting that info...

Use multi FX in line.

Less is more on FX - it's easy to overcook and muddy up a mix - what sounds good on your own could sound lost or worse with the band.

Make sure you turn OFF AMP simulation if using an AMP (it ruins a nice tone and play around with compressor (very valuable tool).

EQ - lower BASS (don't compete with KICK and BASS)
EQ - lower treble (tinny may cut through but can hurt the ears after a while).
EQ - up middle slightly.

test FX though headphones - then re-test through amp.

Start with a LITTLE overdrive (drop that GAIN), a little reverb to thicken and a mid compressor.


Matt.

Line 6 M13

You know it makes sense

@Mick.. shameless Switchblade pimping??

Does that mean I can have my Digitech back then Ady??? lol

James, absolutely. I simply haven't looked back. I was a valve Marshall and Mesa Boogie user for a significant amount of years. I have been completely RUINED by the H&K.

matt has good advice there..
i have said this before but i have a tc electronic nova system. in the Fx loop ... it is made to go in there and has a seperate input for using in the front end , many multi fx aren't.
for example i used to use an ME50 put it in the front end and the delay sounded horrible... put it in the loop and you find that the compressor levels out all your channels... also the Wah sounded horrible through the loop.
i think i met you at the Hulton arms ... and you praised my sound.
your JSX is not too far related from my XXX (the xxx is what the jsx is based on)
i can't recommend the TC unit enough ... also it has a boost function which raises the volume giving you a clean channel (with solo boost) crunch channel (also with boost) and lead channel (with boost also)
the Delay on it is spectacular, and the dynamic delay will stay silent untill you ease off on the notes before it adds repeats preventing muddyness.

go to your nearest supplier and get a demo. (preferably a store that has your amp)

I bought a Korg AX3000 for 80 quid off eBay and it does pretty much anything you want. I have been playing guitar in bands playing all kinds of stuff for over 30 years and have used just about every kind of combination you can think of. The Line 6 M13's are brilliant but they aren't cheap. on a budget I would deffo recommend the Korg, you have to spend a bit of time tweaking them to get what you want but they are only 139 quid brand new and IMHO the best bargain on the market

I use it front end by the way & not through the fx loop which is hopeless for any kind of distortion sounds

On RP7 - definately check that the Speaker Cabinet Emulator is set to bypass.

And on the peavy drop the gain, drop the pre-gain, drop the crunch and drop the overdrive if you have it.

The order you apply FX will affect the output...e.g. if you apply crunch after reverb, you'll get a different sound to if you apply crunch and then reverb the crunched sound.

Also check uoutput levels on patches - some will be way up - drop'em 50% and let the amp do the work. To begin with try and get each patch around the same volume (you can adjust later for effect if you need a little boost on a particular track or solo).

Matt.

Hi ady just to check with ya, are you just looking really for delay on solo sections?

Are you not that bothered about the unit having other effects as well?

Hey we had a good chat at your king eddy gig bout this didn't we, I think I've got a good idea of the kind if thing you're after as I recognise the same kinda needs

let me know
Roberto

Get a BOSS DD 3 or DD 6.....set it to 800ms and set all the nobs to 12 o'clock as a starting point and give it a whirl.......fkin awesome...and if you add a bit of chorus from a BOSS super chorus then you get a massive sound... and just to take it that bit further....get a Boss GE 7 equaliser.... set the EQ to suit your taste and step on it when you solo and you get an instant boost in volume to your sound at an EQ of your choice independent to your amp settings.
Did i say i love BOSS pedals lol :->

Ditch the multi fx use a BOSS sd 1 as a lead boost and a BOSS DD3 in the FX loop dial in plenty of mids and try your settings with the band as what souinds good on its own can turn to white noise with the band. Keep it simple and keep it BOSS

I went through this same scenario (again!!) just recently.

I am know running a good valve amp with a mixture of pedals through the front end and some through the effects loop.

It looks like this:

Guitar - Morley classic wah - Marshall shredmaster - Ibanez 7 band graphic - Laney VC-30

Through the effects loop I then run an old boss analogue delay and a tokai chorus.

Coupled with the amps own drive channel this gives me effectively a 6 channel amp with not too much in the way of tap dancing.

I used to run a zoom 8080 through a valvestate - not good for anything except clean based effects. Having said that though I always take the 8080 with me in case of amp problems and then just chuck it through the PA - not the same but easier than lugging a spare amp around.

valve amp clean + tubescreamer = sounds guarenteed to get you a blow job

I'm hoping that's what will sort my tone woes out Dean - following all the recent advice on my 'guitar tone nightmare' post, plus lots of research, I'm pinning my hopes on the Tubescreamer being shit hot when I actually get round to trying one (does anyone know of any local (to Bolton) stockists)? Actually quite excited about that prospect...

Tube Screamers do nothing for me. That mid spike that you can't dial out gets right on my pip.

Differet strokes for different folks Mick. I have two tubescreamers an original and a reissue i chop and change them all the time, always swore by them always will... anythin else i have just found fizzy and shit, absolutly hate boss, the only thing i have found thats anygood is the tuner... but there is nothing like a good clean valve sound on a single channel clean valve amp with a great boost in the front, be it a hot cake, tube screamer, i have two boost i chop and change a bit an mxr and a pickup booster both of which are diamond. if you run the amp hot enough then give it a rogering with a pedal like that, your in danger of that blow job.

all these dsl things and tripple channel all singin and dancing things are terrible... i dont know how any self respecting guitar player can hang there hat on them as they are so synthetic and sounds like bleedin chainsaws... i used to a Soldano SLO and that was for all its worth the closest thing i had to my dream sound (of which i have recently found).... the other thing that does my head in is the guitar sounds that are drowned in gain, chourus and delay whats the point as then nobody can ever make out what your playin anyway. i am very old fasioned and really do hate progression with guitar tone... have even been told to ditch my gas powered pedals and buy such and such but no way pedro. progression is a wonderful thing and yes there have been some mega toys out, but when it come to it you cant beat the real thing.

If everybody chucked away there multi fx went dry and stuck a fuzz box infront of there amp the world would be a better place.

1. because mutli fx are shite
2. there would be so many more great players about as it would actually be you making the tones, you get the tone from how you play not from the 4 gain stages you have on the amp or processor.

Now ive had my rant, wank and glass of vimpto im off to catch whats left of the sun and bronze a little more.

Deani baby loves you all more and more each day x