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Musical Attributes

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Posted By : Bad Horsie (Mick) | Comments : 12

What made you what you are musically?


I was thinking about some of the stuff in the 80s thread and decided to have a think about the qualities or attributes of music in general that catch my ear. It occurred to be that even before starting to play (I took up brass age 12 and guitar at 18 ), I can recall what the attributes of the music I was drawn to were.

I don't mean genre, like rock or funk or any kind of pigeonhole. I mean the actual facets of the tunes that captured my ear. Here they are.

1: I've always preferred instrumental music. It's far more atmospheric to my ear and can make my imagination soar.
2: Intricacy has always been a draw. Not like Dream Theater. Like the phrasing and tempo of Ride of the Valkyrie, or the way Fingals Cave rolls like the sea, Hall of the Mountain King actually takes you into a cave. Also speed in playing has always exhilirated me.
3: Although I like Improv, I much prefer structured melody and thoughtful (not tasteful. That's different) phrasing.
4: I was brought up in an environment where military marches were in my ear a lot, and classical pieces as my Father was in a championship section brass band and my mother played piano, church organ, flute and a little guitar. I think this is why I don't register blues progressions.
5: I think I was drawn to rock music for the reasons above, but my tastes are a lot different to my peers. I love Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Van Halen, some Pink Floyd, but can't abide Led Zep or the Stones.

So pretty much all my life my ear has been drawn to intricacy in some form.

Can anyone else work out what the attributes and/or facets of music float their boat, without being genre specific or dismissing other facets because they don't hit hit your ear right?

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# Posted by Steveo (singer of beautiful so... - 11/07/2011, 19:24 (GMT)

This is a great question Mick. Wow where do I begin ? Well initially I played recorder from being 8 years old.
I always loved singing. It was the tonality of my grandfather's voice that got me hooked; he was a tenor and also played piano.
He would play for me songs like Adelweiss (Is that how you spell it ?) and I would sing it.
He to me was my sole musical inspiration and my guidance.

I also snag in church choirs as a youngster and was drawn by the harmonies. Moreove I loved pop music like any other child and would listen to whatever I could growing up in the seventies.

My parents where huge Beatles and Del shannon fans and I was exposed to this from an early age. I wasn't allowed to listen to The Sex pistols but I love their music now.

Simon and Garfunkel had a big influence on me. (again it's the melodies in the songs that drew me) the clever poetic lyrics that spoke to me. Again i didn't play guitar until I was 18.
Has all this made me what I am musically ?? Possibly.

Not sure . melody is the winner for me though.
Steveo.


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# Posted by Tubthumper - 11/07/2011, 19:28 (GMT)

I'm a paradox in that I don't particularly feel drawn to playing the music which I prefer to listen to. I'm very much a lover a "throwaway"pop and disco styles but don't get off playing it as from a drummers perspective there's not much challenge to it.

I loathe listening to blues music - I find the guitar/vocals/musical progressions in it very derivative and repetitive and yet I love drumming to it as it gives a lot of creative freedom and carte blanche to play musically.

I realise I'm giving sweeping generalisations there but I'm off out and don't have time for a more considered or politically correct response!


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# Posted by Rob Redfern, Black Rose,more f... - 11/07/2011, 19:37 (GMT)

goodness knows, theres all sorts of stuff whizzing around up there haha


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# Posted by The Cottonhouse Shakers - 11/07/2011, 19:43 (GMT)

I could but it would be pointless as there is an exception to every rule.

Why would someone love Leonard Cohen AND Motorhead? but most people don't like either? It's just the way that it should be because if everyone liked the same thing....I'd give up.

Sometimes I want to be challenged, other times I want to mong out.....haven't used that expression for ages LOL.


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# Posted by Wagontown - 11/07/2011, 19:46 (GMT)

@Bad horsie..There isnt half some dark horses on here,what a deep thinker you are.I didnt realise it when you were pounding me for my "monkey see monkey do" thing,but your a man after my own heart.You too
Steveo,crooner.Your life seems to be a mirror image of mine, harmony,s in church ,the lot.But my parents never controlled me like that....PS, as a kid, the "Sound of Music" film had a major impact on my musical life,did you see it?


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# Posted by 4most Wanted - 11/07/2011, 19:49 (GMT)

Great post Mick. Couldn't agree with you more. I'm the same with classical training and being brought up on brass bands. Started playing bass when I was 18 'cos I heard Paul McCartney say bass players are a special breed who make the best sound engineers, in that you have to cut through the various layers of sound to hear the bass, which trains your ear better for listening to music. And although some people will say that's bullshit, again, each to their own. But I can always tell when another band member isn't playing something right.
I prefer a strong melody over anything else. Something that stays in the brain after 1 listen. As a singing bass player, I tried to get into Geddy Lee, and although he's brilliant, it just goes completely over my head. It took me ages to realise that I should be trying to express rather than impress.
I'm not particular drawn to any one genre of music, as again it's the melody that grabs me.
I love Enigma, JM Jarre and Vangelis and of course my classical music, for the point you've made in point 1 above. Escapism and imagination.
I love some punk and powerful rock for the energy, but can't stand the screaming on death metal etc.
I love funk and soul for the grooves, and love listening to music from around the world as the latin american, arabic, and african rhythms pulsate me but can't get my head around some R'n'B or Rap.
I can't get enough of Steve Perry's voice as it does things to me, but find I can't listen to Journey without him.
I also prefer Domingo over Pavarotti as I believe whilst Pavarotti is technically brilliant, I always found Domingo more passionate.
Can't get into Blues either as it really depresses me and makes me angry and miserable.
I read a book once which said most people will always enjoy songs in a certain key. Obviously, it will be different for everyone, but apparently we all have a certain key that we respond to more.
Be interesting to see what everybody else makes of it.


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# Posted by Bad Horsie (Mick) - 11/07/2011, 19:57 (GMT)

Terry, we all have a middle ground somewhere mate. It's just a matter of finding it. I love learning about what makes players/singers tick. There has to be a reason why my ear can't deal with certan stuff and yours can. :o)


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# Posted by James - Metalleeka - 11/07/2011, 20:18 (GMT)

The fear instilled in me when hearing master of puppets, the imagery of darkness just leapt at me through the headphones. The dynamics of battery and Orion, the forcefulness of disposable heroes. It all led an inquisitive teen to pick up a guitar.

Over time I also developed a taste for a catchy chorus with a clever weaving rhythm, think "The Police"


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# Posted by Steveo (singer of beautiful so... - 11/07/2011, 20:24 (GMT)

@Wagontown. It wasn't control my parents were exercising; they objected to the Sex pistols use of language on a children's Tv programme and it was that I suppose that set the boundaries.
Sound of music. great film , great tunes.
Steveo.


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# Posted by Wagontown - 11/07/2011, 20:27 (GMT)

You mean you had a telly when you were a kid? .lol


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# Posted by Steveo (singer of beautiful so... - 11/07/2011, 20:30 (GMT)

Yeah but it was only black and white until Liverpool played in the European Cup final 1977. That's when we got a
coloured TV! (That's true.)
LOL
Now I'm going off subject.


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# Posted by Jez (Route 69) - 11/07/2011, 23:11 (GMT)

1st album I got was Slade - Old, New, Borrowed and Blue when I was 5 (off the back of Merry Xmas admittedly). I think I liked catchy hooks but also the bit of diversity - Slade rocked out but also did fantastic ballads (a very underrated band).
Later after all the fashion music of the time (punk, new wave etc) I was drawn to Gillan, AC/DC and Motorhead. Think Gillan had the melodies and changes, DC were raw and Motorhead was balls out.
After that Sabbath and Ozzy - Randy Rhoads is my guitar hero - structured and thought out playing; he did what sounded good, not just play to show off his abilities.
Then Hair metal and Thrash - loved them both. At the time Metal was getting split and it was Glams and Thrashers but I went with what sounded good and didn't really see the either/or bit (I was probably the only Hairsprayed bloke headbanging away to thrash in the Banshee!!!

Better stop now before it turns into my life history blog!!

:0)


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