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The other 2 made original music not some water down tricks from the Beatles know how.

The worst thing they did was to try and pass themselves off as the best thing ever, well at least that arse of a singer did, ooh what's that in my mouth. . . I really feel the need to spit.

Feckin Oasis

Due to my age Oasis were responsible for me taking an interest in the guitar, mainly due to the simplicity of the songs (to learn) and the hair cut, which even i could replicate :)

However as much as i wouldn't listen to them now, and agree they did take themselves far too seriously, my initial interest lead me to the stone roses and the smiths, which in turn opened me up to real guitarists like john squire, johnny marr, etc

Then i found clapton which in turn got me into buddy guy, albert king, BB king etc, as much as Oasis are a bunch of tits they did lead me onto some life changing music in a weird way, so cant knock them for that

"and after all, you my wonderwall " courtesy of mike flowers.

I am not an Oasis fan, nor do I particularly like The Beatles (although contrary to what alot of people seem to think, I don't actively dislike them),

I can, however, see that The Beatles were ground breaking, whereas Oasis (or rather Noel) were just good at writing catchy, guitar based tunes with little originality.

In the debate between north and south, I'm afraid that I have to side with the southern jessies on this one - Blur were the band trying different things and changing their sound and style all the time.

But that's just my opinion.

AYP

'Cos Oasis were the Bay City Rollers of the 90's?

Oh, and agree with Al too

I suppose that's where The Beatles and The Pistols differed really - they did something new and exciting. Oasis were 'just' the most successful of the Britpop of that era.

Not that I would slag them for that - they've got far more money than me and live the dream...

Funnily enough, Liam used to work as a sign fitter for a guy I still do contract work for, and told him in the lat eighties 'I'm going to be famous'. Well - fair play......

AYP

Certainly Oasis were a derivative band, owing much to The Beatles, but both the Beatles and Sex Pistols performed their fair share of covers. Both bands covered rock and roll classics and the Pistols even covered a Monkees tune (Stepping Stone)

I'm not going to slag off any of the bands, they all had their good and bad points and all three had contemporaneous bands who contributed a lot to music (Stones, Yardbirds, Clash, Stranglers, Blur, etc)

You pay you're money and takes your choice - be a boring world if we all liked the same music, clothes et al.

Don

think theres a little thing called retrospect here too.

a lot of people who didnt particularly like the beatles or the sex pistols at the time can look back and like them now, i include myself in that.

oasis were probably there own worst enemy, particularly Noel, in bigging themselves up. Their first album is a brilliant rock album albeit not very original, but in the words of Noel "all the best songs have already been written"

they had no problem filling stadiums and had a massive fan base which probably kept them going for 5 albums too many, if they'd thrown the towel in after the second album i think they'd command more respect now............definitely............maybe :)

The Beatles started off paying homage to Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry etc. They then started writing their own songs in a similar vein and then, with Revolver and Sgt Pepper produced music that was uniquely original. Oasis never got past the stage of paying homage to their heroes - they never developed in the way The Beatles did. There is a world of difference between The Beatles' first album, Please Please Me, and their last, Abbey Road. There is no such progression with Oasis - any song would fit into any album without seeming out of place.

Originality doesn't particularly bother me. Getting albums full of bloody good songs does. And Oasis nailed that. Great band. I don't care if the songs lack originality or are simplistic - the majority of them are great tunes. And for me, as a 20 year old when Definitely Maybe came out, the early/classic stuff takes me back to a great time and place in my life. And that's all that matters to me (as Curtis Stigers may have once sang...). I still listen to them as much today as I did back then.

And I also have a lot of admiration for Blur. Coxon was one of the most innovative guitarists of his generation. But where the 2 bands are concerned, I listen to Oasis a hell of a lot more. Horses for courses I guess.

I think there's a few inherent differences between the Beatles, the Sex Pistols and Oasis. I don't think neccessarily it's about the musical journey of the band, I think it's about being the first ones to do something.

The Beatles were the first big, massive band. Their influence was staggering, as was their popularity. The pretty much defined what a pop band is still to this day and influenced so much subsequent music either directly or indirectly (i.e. influences of an influence on a band) it's scary.

The Sex Pistols filled middle England with horror and were the figureheads of the punk movement in the country and from legendary gigs like The Free Trade Hall in 1976, inspired a generation of fantastic and innovative bands who took their energy and enthusiasm and produced a decade and more of incredible music.

Oasis were a good band, though not really my cup of tea. They were popular and without doubt some of those songs off the first two albums really are a soundtrack to the mid 90s (along with Blur, Pulp and Radiohead) but they didn't really define anything in particular, except for a brief flirtation with "lad culture" in the mid-late 90s. You can't really say that the musical landscape would've been any different without them, except lacking a few of the tiresome Oasis-wannabe bands knocking around.

My question is following on from the 15 year theory, who's the current Beatles, Sex Pistols, Oasis? The British band who have exploded out of nowhere that are the figureheads of our music scene? I'd say Super 8 Cynics but I'm biased as they're my band!