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At the risk of boring you all to death

Filed Under : Music , Other

Posted By : Alyerpal | Comments : 35

can I just remind you of rule 1?


"Be nice: Even if you disagree with someone, you need to keep your tone civil and reasonable."

I know I can be accused of not always posting completely relevant blogs and that sometimes I have a laugh and go off in completely tangentral directions, but that does not detract from the fact that I also support and (try to) help everyone who comes on here.

There are lots of blogs about 'another one bites the dust' and 'band now available due to venue closure'.

There has been quite a lot of noise about getting more venues on here (Gary from LGIT made a really good effort at doing just that).

And yet, for some reason, venues tend to get very short shift on here.

Now considering that every time a new venue surfaces wanting bands they are inundated with responses, it seems odd that we then villify them for:

Not responding.

Not offering enough money.

Not being there purely to keep music live.

Before writing anything else, I would like to make it clear that I have never run a pub or venue.

I do visit them a lot though and have made 4 or 5 reasonably close (and 2 very close) friends of people who do from this site, so with that in mind, could I just point out a couple of obvious, but fairly important things:

Most of us on here DO NOT MAKE OUR MAIN INCOME from playing in bands. We are 'weekend warriors' and probably are doing it for the love of it (I know I am).

Venues have to make a living, so they may love music and want to support it, but mainly they have to support themselves and their staff.

The statement made by many people, but most recently John FV:

If you want to gig at X amount then do - if you don't then don't.

It's not rocket science.

Bands (and individuals) come on here all the time asking for advice on all sorts of things and yet when a venue comes on asking about fair pricing they are always torn to pieces.

It's hardly surprising they don't contribute very much, but without them, we're all condemned to playing with ourselves.

so please:
"Be nice: Even if you disagree with someone, you need to keep your tone civil and reasonable."

Everyone likes a good debate, but when it gets rude and personal it benefits no one.

Love to all

Alyerpal

Sensible hat now off - back to being an idjut!

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# Posted by NIGHT TRAIN - 13/10/2011, 12:40 (GMT)

Totally agree!
What people dont seem to realise is that this aint some FB site, its (like it or not) one of the main music sites for this area, and all the crap on here reflects on all of us!


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# Posted by deceased - 13/10/2011, 12:46 (GMT)

and whats brought this up ? have i missed something ?..........................!!
but i do agree with the content , well most of it .


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# Posted by Tubthumper - 13/10/2011, 12:58 (GMT)

Very good points very well made. Had you considered being a marriage guidance counsellor? Or a hostage negotiator?


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# Posted by TEX & THE HARDCORE TROUBAD... - 13/10/2011, 13:00 (GMT)

Al an Ostrich Negotiator ??? wots wanna them ?
Like bleedin High Noon on here somedays ffs ;-)


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# Posted by Tubthumper - 13/10/2011, 13:07 (GMT)

Good job we've got a resident pacifist gunslinger on the team then!


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# Posted by Stu (dose) - 13/10/2011, 13:23 (GMT)

"Sensible hat now off - back to being an idjut!" - and you say I have too many hats :-P


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# Posted by DLSW - 13/10/2011, 13:41 (GMT)

Well said. Couldnt agree more.

I used to have bands in my pub and I certainly wouldnt have liked getting some of the shit Ive seen recently if I had been using this site at the time.


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# Posted by JOHNNY MEERKAT - 13/10/2011, 13:47 (GMT)

"Be nice: Even if you disagree with someone, you need to keep your tone civil and reasonable."

You're such a nob! :o)


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# Posted by Stu (dose) - 13/10/2011, 13:53 (GMT)

good point well put


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# Posted by VANKWISH - 13/10/2011, 13:53 (GMT)

ALYERTALKINGSENSEANDNOBULLSHITPAL....

Marc.


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# Posted by Stu (dose) - 13/10/2011, 13:55 (GMT)

whats a Yertal King? :oP


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# Posted by deceased - 13/10/2011, 14:04 (GMT)

where is 4 most when you need his contribution?......i can see this blog going down hill real fast again pmsl.............


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# Posted by Bad Horsie (Mick) - 13/10/2011, 14:16 (GMT)

There are always people who will say from a keyboard what they'd think about first face to face. I'm of the firm opinion that someone could make a killing developing a temper checker tool for web browsers.

"Would you like to check if you're making yourself look ridiculous before posting? Yes/No" *click*


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# Posted by Stu (dose) - 13/10/2011, 14:20 (GMT)

@Mick - that would be awesome


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# Posted by Willow (of somebig™Fish) (Reti... - 13/10/2011, 14:23 (GMT)

Good job I'm always nice!


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# Posted by 4most Wanted - 13/10/2011, 14:41 (GMT)

@Rollercoaster - I'm still here mate!!

And for what it's worth I completely agree with AlTonyyerpal.

But it's not always me that's a nasty knickers!!!!

I just say it as I see it which sometimes upsets a few people........................


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# Posted by deceased - 13/10/2011, 14:47 (GMT)

lol...fair play 4 most


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# Posted by VANKWISH - 13/10/2011, 15:03 (GMT)

@ mick, i have one of them buttons, its called a mouse, i pick it up smash it back down again,,, works, but kinda gets expensive!!!!


@ Al......

thanks for the big up mate much appreciated... you know what i mean......


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# Posted by 4most Wanted - 13/10/2011, 15:36 (GMT)

Can I just point out also, that a couple of months ago, when I was a relative newcomer to this site, a bloke came on here purporting to be a landlord with a couple of venues and made a few comments about bands and what they charge.

For the record, I never commented, but the bloke was lambasted, vilified, ridiculed, called a troll, a dalek and a faceless cunt by nearly every man and his dog on this site.

And hilarity ensued. Oh how everybody laughed!! Such was the joy.

Difference please anyone?

Can somebody please explain the rules to me about questioning a venues integrity, as clearly there are certain double standards being met.


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# Posted by Bad Horsie (Mick) - 13/10/2011, 15:42 (GMT)

That's easy. The "venue owner" in question still hasn't made his identity known. He'll continue to get fucked with until he does. If he isn't a troll ;o)


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# Posted by Jez (Route 69) - 13/10/2011, 16:16 (GMT)

here we go again!!

....ok, move on,. there's nothing to see here...



;0)


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# Posted by SABRE - 13/10/2011, 16:34 (GMT)

there,s just not enough love and cowbells in the world

pete.


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# Posted by Alyerpal - 13/10/2011, 17:00 (GMT)

I've actually been guilty of this crime myself in the past - so I wasn't specifically 'having a go' at anyone, just one of those "I've got to say something moments".

Venues seem to be like BMW drivers on this site - everyone sees red as soon as they turn up!

AYP


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# Posted by Willow (of somebig™Fish) (Reti... - 13/10/2011, 17:22 (GMT)

OY!!!

oh no i've got a Volvo now aven I

Anyone wanna buy a BMW Z3 ...?? Seriously - look at the weather ... we're going to have a globalwarminglytastic winter!!!


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# Posted by Alyerpal - 13/10/2011, 17:24 (GMT)

Not thanks Willow - I look enough of a tosser as it is!

Alyernob


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# Posted by JOHNNY MEERKAT - 13/10/2011, 17:27 (GMT)

"Alyernob" pmsl

So true..........

:OP


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# Posted by IainRkid - 13/10/2011, 18:55 (GMT)

Bloody hell Rkid you nearly sound intelligent ;-)


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# Posted by The Villains - 13/10/2011, 20:28 (GMT)

Can we see 'rule number one' on a drum skin please Al?!


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# Posted by Alyerpal - 13/10/2011, 20:42 (GMT)

No problem


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AYhappytoobligeP


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# Posted by JOHNNY MEERKAT - 13/10/2011, 20:47 (GMT)

@AYN too many hours in a day not enough to do pmsl


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# Posted by Alyerpal - 13/10/2011, 20:52 (GMT)

Good innit?!

Jew want one?

AYMSBM


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# Posted by JOHNNY MEERKAT - 13/10/2011, 21:34 (GMT)

No drums and I'm not nice :o(


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# Posted by TEX & THE HARDCORE TROUBAD... - 13/10/2011, 21:53 (GMT)

lol, that deserves it's own place on the homepage !!!


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# Posted by Tubthumper - 14/10/2011, 02:17 (GMT)

@ Tex, yer maybe Mr NWB could stick it over the picture of that dreadful band no one can be arsed to go and see......


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# Posted by Willow (of somebig™Fish) (Reti... - 14/10/2011, 02:25 (GMT)

our picture disappeared ages ago from the homepage


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