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Rainbow Rising: Amazing band

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Posted By : John Wilkinson: | Comments : 14

Review and a question


Hi all.

After seeing the amazing Rainbow Rising on Saturday at The Moses Gate it has made me question what makes a great tribute band.

First of all let me say that Rainbow Rising were superb. The guitarist (Baz) replicated Ritchie Blackmores style and more importantly tone to a tee.... He was THAT good. I saw Rainbow in 77 and 80 and I can honestly say it was like being back in the Empire and Bingly Hall if I closed my eyes. The whole band were tight and kudos to the keyboardist for having all the right sounds as well.

It got me thinking as to what makes a great tribute band and I have narrowed it down to one main thing...ACCURACY. These guys had it in spades. The singer although he didn't sound exactly like RJD, had the range and tone to sing the songs well. The start and endings of the songs were as Rainbow played them and there were no notes missed out or extra notes put in. It was just like listening to a Rainbow live CD.

And that for me is the difference between a bunch of chaps palying (in this case Rainbow) songs and a proper tribute band. It is clear they have listened over and over to the songs and picked a version and stuck to it note for note. a problem I have had with some tributes I have seen is that they seem to adopt a "That'll do" mentality. They may have a singer who sounds nothing like the singer of the band they are paying tribute to. They may miss out notes or put their own solo's in. All these things spoil the effect for me

What do you all think? Are you happy to see a tribute band do this, or do you think it doesn't matter as long as they play the songs "something like"?

Best Wishes

John

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# Posted by Alyerpal - 31/10/2011, 11:49 (GMT)

I think we had a similar blog to this not long ago John, but I think:

Nail on head.

Tribute bands need to be musically spot on. If you are going to see a trib it's presumably because you love the music and so know what to exoect at all points in any given track. This means you don't want to hear someone elses interpretation - you want to hear the definitive.

Although Black Rose don't call themselves a tribute, they are very faithful to the music of Thin Lizzy and Fink Ployd were like listening to the albums as were Genes-ish - which is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Covers bands, on the other hand, can get away with their own renditions and messing about (I know Kingpin do!).

It is one of the reasons I have avoided playing in tribute bands - I'm too lazy to learn the songs with that level of dedication!

AYP


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# Posted by PINK FLOYDish - 31/10/2011, 11:50 (GMT)

Hmmmmm interstin point john, I have to admit i do improvise a little on the likes of comfortably numb, but i also keep all the "key" elements of the guitar in too. But thats only cos Gilmour never really plays the same solo twice when playing live. I also think cos of the nature of the song with the fact that the audience who watch us love the guitar part and therefor look forward to it, i go to town on it an drag it out for a good few minutes in order to give them what they want, which is a big fat f*ck off guitar solo lol

best wishes

Kev


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# Posted by Stonecycle - 31/10/2011, 11:55 (GMT)

@ Alyerpal - I completely agree with you and I feel the same about being too lazy to learn the songs to a level of painstaking accuracy :) Plus I would find it hard to limit myself to playing only one band's songs every weekend. Unless I could get together a mammoth ten piece parliament funkadelic tribute. That'd be worth it!


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# Posted by Morocco - 31/10/2011, 11:58 (GMT)

Hi John, On a personal basis, I prefer to see a band do 'their' versions of numbers rather than trying to replicate the original - on most of our numbers, we've tried to put our own take on things, but clearly some numbers will end up mirroring the original (Stuck In The Middle for starters..... I can't stand it, yet it never fails to go down well, wherever we play. We also borrow Deaf School's arrangement of a Flaming Groovies number, which is a tribute in itself).

Overall, and in answer to your end question, I'd prefer to see a tribute where the band played the songs as they saw them, rather than simply tried to copy the original.

Regards,
Norman


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# Posted by the stories - 31/10/2011, 12:06 (GMT)

This lot are the sexpistols experience

,Well worth watching ,its the closest anyone will get to watch the sexpistols circuit 77-78 (with sid vicious).


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# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 31/10/2011, 12:14 (GMT)

Good points all.

@ Kev. Totally get where you coming from here matey. Gilmore (same as Blackmore) hardly ever plays the same solo twice but what you get is the "feel" and tone of Gilmore's playing in my opinion and that is a credit to you. The vids I have seen of you guys show that you take the job in hand very seriously and play the parts as they should be played.

@ Alyerpal. Agreed matey about the "too lazy" having that level of dedication, but that is what you NEED (again in my opinion) to be a great tribute band. Look at Gaga, Bootleg Beatles, or The Musical Box for example.

@ Norman. But then are the band who do that a "tribute band" or a covers band????

Good points one and all, thanks :-)

Best wishes

John


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# Posted by Bad Horsie (Mick) - 31/10/2011, 12:31 (GMT)

Agreed John. A tribute needs to do exactly what it says. That's why I've never been in one. It's no detriment at all to the players who clearly dedicate a lot of time to nailing the vibe. I just can't see myself in the box. That's why when I was in Renegade we never mentioned the word tribute. I like to go walkabout with my playing and would feel uncomfortable confining myself to the totally faithful reproduction of someone elses music.


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# Posted by Baz - NIB/Black Rose/Scopyons - 31/10/2011, 13:13 (GMT)

I have mixed views on this one.

To me it depends a little on the bands and songs you play - there are some that are just sacrosanct such as RUSH there are others that when the originals play live are never played spot on to the record e.g. Heaven and Hell/Sabbath. There are certain solos/riffs/drum fills that just have to be played as is.

Then there is the question of "dressing up" to be the part in a tribute band - not something I have ever considered .

From a Black Rose point of view I think the music is very authentic but i dont think we will ever be able to "blacken" Roj up - he sweats too much...lol

NIB - we do with poetic license - some of the songs spot on others not so.

Quite happy to be billed as a Thin Lizzy covers band or Sabbath/Ozzy covers band.

Baz


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# Posted by Best of Foo - 31/10/2011, 13:24 (GMT)

We tend to play the songs on the record but add live elements which the band themselves do on shows.

as for dressing up, i add a black shirt and the drummer takes his off (as he is a skinny git!!!)

Although i dont actually think Dave G is 5'6" with a belly and erm...... wears glasses lol

Gary
BOF


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# Posted by Morocco - 31/10/2011, 13:26 (GMT)

Hi again John - I do think a band / singer could focus on one single artiste/band for it's repertoire, without needing to replicate the sound of the original, and still be a totally valid tribute act. I wouldn't wanna do it myself, mind..... anyhow, in my book, bands like the Bootleg Beatles (excellent tho' they may be) fall into the Novelty category.


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# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 31/10/2011, 13:36 (GMT)

Hadn't thought about "costumes" but my take on that would be a no no.

Seen some Genesis tributes do it and it just never looks "right" to me, even the ones who go to great lengths to do so. No way would I ever even consider it.

Norman I can't agree with you matey as my view after being in one for 12 years is that the audience expect the songs to sound exactly as the record/live versions, but each to their own matey :-)

Best wishes

John


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# Posted by Kevo - Roadhog - 31/10/2011, 20:58 (GMT)

To wig or not to wig?......!


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# Posted by viking - 31/10/2011, 21:03 (GMT)

i reckon i've seen a lot of damn good tribute bands in me time-in my view those that "costumed up" were, at times, in danger of becoming charactures of the original bands they were representing and that did, to some extent,detract from the music and the quality of their playing. ;-D


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# Posted by John Wilkinson: - 01/11/2011, 12:29 (GMT)

@ Viking

Spot on matey. Wholeheartedly agree ;-)

Best wishes

John


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