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Wow!

Oh no I don't know about this......... visual mixing! ARGHH! lol

errr Wow! luckily I play bass or GAS may kick in :-) BIg downside making it device specific but ...

£2,000 for the mixer. £1,000 per speaker.

I've just spent £6,000 in my head on a mixer, 2 1400w speakers and 2 1200w subs.

Anyone want to buy a kidney?

Looks like a Sound Engineers dream. No long snakes to run to a mixing desk at the back of the room. Just stand there with your iPad.

essentially this is just another digital desk but in a musician friendly format. if you are getting switched on by the line 6 offering you should take a look at new and forthcoming mackie mixer with the same facilities but with integrated ipad capable of remote control, behringer have a similar thing on the way too. this along side digital snakes and Behringers game changing x32, to be released in 16 channel format as x16. there are truck loads of these new digital advances appearing at the moment. the pro engineers are looking down their nose at the line 6 and see it as gimmic-y but i think they miss the point. it will appeal to musicians who want digital desks on stage with them or at least some of the capabilities but don't want a full blown professionally digital desk. it has some cool tricks up it's sleeve too - like feedback suppression programs and multi voicing vocals.
There are way better desks on and coming to the market, more professional and much cheaper, both analogue and digital and you won't catch me running a line 6 unit instead of a more conventional desk at a gig - but that's not the point is it? for every gig i mix in a bar there are 10 bands or more working without an engineer. if you are tech savvy, want a good one off sound setting for a gig then this may be for you.
if you want to change that mix for individual songs and to suit the venue, you are still going to need either a digital desk with snapshot facility and the skill to program it or an engineer out front. the line 6 has enough toys and presets to help you improve your sound but also enough to get you into trouble if your not used to applying those toys.
we live in interesting times.

Here is Mackies take on this new concept.

http://www.mackie.com/products/dl1608/

Lee :)

Keith, if I spent £6,000 on a drum kit I'd want it to play itself!! A decent DW will set you back about £2,000.

That's £8,000 I've spent now!

Any other body parts I can sell? Ha ha ha

It's like the cheerleader, completely untouchable unless you're loaded.

Keith - that may be where you're going wrong. The tippex should be on the chasis of the desk, not the sliders lol :o)

#Edit to say:
That's a joke, before some touchy individual comes in and thinks I'm suggesting you are "going wrong"

I was hoping Behringer would bring out an x16, in fact Ive been talking to one of their guys on their facebook page for months now about the very same thing! I still have their old 32 channel digital desk which has sadly died with a intermittent and infuriating "on and off for no reason" situation, grrrrr,how I loved that desk!) now I'm scaling down and not touring anymore ( not for the foreseeable anyway) the x16 or their new usb desks look the biz for pub or smaller intimate gigs. Just having decent reverbs and fx, a gate on each channel and the fantastic EQ they did on the outputs would be enough for me in my current situation.

I could'nt find the X16 anywhere but then I stumbled on a Polish description with specs, It tranlated, but when I cut and pasted it on here it reverted back to Polish! Doh!

@Tony - as I understand it the x16 is still in the planning stage. they announced the x32 was coming to market over a year ago and you have been able to pre-order since September (£1800) but it still isn't released and they are talking about a shipping date of March now. Given all this, I should expect we are another 12 months away from an x16 on the market at least.