NWB - Community Blog

So we cannot fend off an obvious troll then

Just asking

Oh come on its Friday afternoon...plus I say it brings the community closer!

Of course it does matey. I notice with interest that Socialtornado is one of the few people giving The Dalek some troll food on the blog.

I agree totally. That's why I prefer a forum based site. The type I admin on.
There is always a clearly defined 'off topic area'.... ie the playpen.
There is (admittedly) some utter tripe posted in here.

The rules have been explained, so deletion without explanation is probably the way forward.

How should we deal with the troll then?

I started the whole chocolate thing as on another fourm I have been a member of for years we find talking about something totally unrelated to the trolls post drives them away.
Sorry if I have offended but why is this taken so seriously?

Best wishes

John

And this is the very reason why online communities end up falling apart, if a blog doesn't interest you don't read it. If posts just start dissapearing people will just stop using it simple as!

No you are clearly feeding him attention. He did not reply to any of the chocolate posts only when you attempted to take him on.

Do what I do with the troll - just ignore it. If noone replies, it will just drop off the end unnoticed.

ooooooohhh, I'll get my coat.
it would appear we cant have fun here anymore!!!

Even as the chocoholic that I am it seemed a bit daft. Try and reason with him, I think he's made a couple of half decent points.

Look its simple: the guy was/is a total timewaster who's only mission was to wind everyone up - he had no argument whatsoever. So what if people posted stuff totally unrelated, it's only a laugh for gods sake...or have we forgot how to laugh in this country now??

I sincerely hope the sites not gonna get moderated like f**k, thats a sure way to kiss goodbye to the users here.

None taken however most people were making their point loud and clear.
We won't allow trolls on here.
I will stand corrected if anyone was put off by this( apart from yourself and The Kerbcrawlers)

best wishes

John

I can't stop thinking about the Milk Tray bar now.

if you've "said this before"........ you sure you aint the blog police. who judges whats relevent???
and who took my comment of the darleks blog, isn't that my choice????
i lost a point for that, thats one less argos voucher at christmas!!!!..
only kidding guys, but surely, its part of our makeup, if it wasn't for the fun, why would we be doing this.... FOR THE MONEY???
I dont have a clue who you guys are, i hope to meet you all someday, talking about daft things brings this comunity closer i think!!

The Play Pen would be the ideal place for this BUT its been labelled the play pen and for that reason many avoid it. Perhaps rebadging it to Off Topic or Randomness would make it more agreeable. Just a thought

ST has a point, wouldn't want to see the site filled up with crap.

Mind you, it was fun posting all that chocolate stuff cos we were making a valid point, albeit not in a conventional way perhaps.

Credit to Dalek, he's got us all bloggin!

I quite like the structure of the blogs, maybe blogs could be flagged as "business" and "pleasure" with the option to filter between them, so if daft stuff gets post in business it gets moved or deleted and the author gets a wrap on the knuckles!

You are quite correct that I will not argue with what a troll posts.
Lets look at the sequence of events.
Troll posts drivel about cover bands which is designed to wind most of bands on here up.
Gets lots of abuse and argument back which was then removed.
Troll comes back on with ludicrous suggestion about cover bands playing for FREE at venues for month. I start to fight back by using tactic which I have seen work on other forums
Loads of other band members and at least one venue joins in. Troll only leaps up when people try and justify an argument against him. Probably sat at his pc waiting for attention.
Posts get deleted.
This blog starts.
Troll will get all excited again now we at each others throats so I will bow out now.
I think the Dalek tosser is in an original sub standard Korn rip off band who can't play and therefore can't get gigs and is pig jealous of anyone with any talent at all. I will sleep sound knowing he can't get gigs.

That is all from me on the subject.

Best wishes to all bands this weekend

John

I totally agree with John on every point made.

Also I find the play pen a lot less user friendly if was set up more like the community blog I would be more inclined to use it.

And besides its Friday the start of the weekend so why not let people vent a little steam in anyway they see fit, it was only a bit of fun after all.

just 1 question Mr NWB sir, what do you class as irrelevant?? musicains having a joke about stuff on a musicians website?? this seems a little harsh, I think that if a "muso" (and i use that term very loosely, as we dont know who the darlek is, could by bruce dickinson, then we would feel like asses)has anything to say, we should listen and respond. unless its racist or extremely vulgar, why delete it?

oh, and thank you for deleting all my responces before i got chance to read them, got the first 3 but I know I had 9, oh well.....

thanks for keeping this site on a great level Paul, while still allowing opinions of all kinds, good man

i think we all need a look at the terms of use again, me included(ive been known to put some silly stuff on now and again, but on the whole love being what i hope is a worthy and positive contributor to this wonderful site)

regards
Rob

fair comment, and on that note I deleted the whole thing, I appologise to anyone who I offended. even the TROLL. god mr NWB your gonna be busy taking off all the comments that victimise one member. let him who cast the first stone..........

me and some NWB pals were talking about the issue of some recent negativity ere at our st helens gig and some of us feel quite distressed and disappointed about it :-(, fortunately we manage to bring themes back to the good stuff (discussing favourite this and that along with music and equipment related banter and open discussion)

i like the way you allow opinions whether good or bad to remain aired as everybody has a right to opinion of course while keeping the blog forum appropriate and lively , its every easy for people to get wound up in any kind of forum, and maybe we can all look at something we dont agree with and sometimes sit back and say "hey thats their opinion" and leave it there, it is also good as well of course to question opinions , which is human nature,

both work and are valid things to do

Rob

@ mr nwb- "I'll be giving some moderation facilities to some undisclosed NWB members, so they can keep an eye on things as well."
quis custodiet, ipsos custodes?

@ Paul
Im now deleting any blogs which are irrelevant, and also closing the comments option on some other blogs.

I'll be giving some moderation facilities to some undisclosed NWB members, so they can keep an eye on things as well.


If you have issue with a single member, please send them a PM, or comment.

Err Why ????

The popularity of this site is purely becaues we can discuss openly what we feel is fun , relevant and yes also shite !
Now coming in witha jack boot attitude, and basicly spies is gonna kill this site completely ,

Look at your Ever poular Playpen !

For fucks sake why dont the near MARY wHITEHOSE Brigade just not read any blogs that piss them off, as the meerkat says ,Simples !
Better still paul , why even let the blog get going in the first place ehh ? you bviousley have the power to edit and delete and have done loads of times in the past ,even on blogs that i thought were relevant and shouldnt have been , and yet also like this crap (which i didnt get drawjn into ! )you have allowed to run
Sorry but as i see it , the exhisting usual members that care to come on night after night and have fun and frolics and obviously music related posts , are the ones that keep this site a happy and enjoyable thing to do on a mundane week. take that away with yer spies etc , and it will be pure shite !.

a forum is a forum ie, free speeach ,even if some dont like it , hell i have been drawn into enough daft blogs on here in onlu 8 months , but i dont whine on about how upset i am or how irelevant thats got to do with music ,

LIGHTEN UP GUYS FOR FUCKS SAKE
Like you said above....

If you have issue with a single member, please send them a PM, or comment.

Then again after the Gestapo have reported us, we could allways have them shot at dawn ehh ?

fEELING LIKE A NAUGHTY SCHOOLBOY

TRIG
nOT MY BAND JUST mE !

Blahh Blahh Russian Submarine !

"# Posted by viking - 27/11/2009, 20:12 (GMT)

@ mr nwb- "I'll be giving some moderation facilities to some undisclosed NWB members, so they can keep an eye on things as well."
quis custodiet, ipsos custodes?"

Viking, I've had the exact same conversation on the site I moderate.

Your question assumes that NWB is a democracy. It is not in any way. Suggestions are accepted gladly on how to improve the site, but at the end of the day there is ONE person that spends all his time keeping this place running, and as far as we are concerned, he is God.

And before anyone mentions donations, they do not give anyone any rights of ownership. I've chipped in but know it is a voluntary contribution and nothing more. It's merely a gesture aiding the person that works bloody hard keeping this site up and running. It's a thankyou, not a share certificate.

Anyone who thinks that this is just "the internet and I can say what I bloody well want" should take note of this. I say should, because it'll not happen. lol.

Bugger. Oy Trig, You posted just before me. Just so you know my post wasn't aimed at you mate. :o)

@ bad horsie (mick)- h'mm-perhaps-the question always applies, in my view-whether it aimed at a dictatorship or a democracy.
experience tells me it is always a good idea to question those who would "rule" us? if they are reasonable people, with no hidden agendas, they will accept the scrutiny with good grace. if not-enough said. clearly, if one does not like the way a site is being run then there is always the option to leave-or bite one's tongue and accept the t&c's de facto.

@Viking

Weeeell it's not really down to us to monitor the motivation of an individual who runs a website that we don't HAVE to come to (for no financial outlay).

If it said on the front page "welcome to NorthWestBands. Feel free to be a cunt!" it'd be a different matter. ;o)

@ bad horsie(mick)-true-however- "if you don't like it, f*ck off" doesn't seem to me to be a good way of winning friends and influencing people? whatever happened to listening to differing view points and, perhaps, changing one's own to widen one's perspective?
:-/

To the Pig, the butcher is king. Bring back the chocolate log errr...blog

Some of those who will enforce us , are the same that burn Cross'e !

and Mick no worries mate , we all have diff opinions likes and dislikes , that is exactly the point aint it ?
But when one decides what one should hear / say / or do , then the world fucks up again.

Fuck you i wont do what yahh tell me !

Vote for free speech Vote for me Now
ignore everyone else ! lol
in fact , even talking about this is actually off topic and Irellevant

YOU VERY BAD MAN!!!!

all opinions are valid, that what makes this world so rich and varied, there is no good or bad, there have been a number of blogs lately that have been controversial, ive felt myself reaching for the comment bit and held back cos hey were all different and so are our opinions, thats healthy, the only thing i object to on here is when things get nasty, other than that its all cool to me

I aint mick , i love and respect everyone, yehh i do get wound up easy , but i have forgot about it the day after , but like i said above , if you dont like what someone posts , then you dont have to read it or even reply do you ,I learned that a few weeks back on here !. i didnt yesterday ,in fact i was reserved coz i could not be bothered to be drawn into itm lol
i just dint want a good website over moderated coz it will kill it,and ehh noone evr really gets hurt or any real offence is ever intended is it ?and as regards off topic, well exactly what is on topic in a muso's head lol?