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Well that's another gig cancelled..

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Posted By : WAGONTOWN | Comments : 40

Due to (look how fkn loud we are) Merchants!

Sat at The Toll Bar Horwich. Sorry to anyone who was gonna attend, but the gigs been cancelled due to Bolton Council complaints about noise.

Thanks AGAIN Rock Band's.

Free this sat if anyone would like something different.



# Posted by Untidy Liars Covers Duo - 11/10/2016, 23:37 (GMT)

we are a trio and we don't use a drummer so we are never too loud and all of our sound can be controlled - no drummer getting louder and then the lead player turning up so everyone else does and then the decibels start to fill the room. However, we've found that despite the audience being happy with the sound some venues don't think it's right unless the act us uber loud.

Sometimes even the jukebox or recorded music being played is so loud people are shouting to speak to each other and to try to order a drink. Do these landlords and landladys think they are running an 80s nightclub?

It isn't just the rock bands that play too loud (although I suspect they are the biggest culprits). There are a lot of young bands who haven't yet honed their skills who believe that everything has to be so loud the audience can't do anything else but stare at them. I saw a post today that said a band would "blow the bollocks off". Sorry not my kinds of music at all and it does spoil it for the venues and the other bands that aren't so loud who have to follow them.

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 12/10/2016, 09:09 (GMT)

Some good points there UL, but in this case I'm led to believe it was due to noisy bands, just the same as our regular Arnside gig which was pulled for the same reason.
That said, I've seen some very loud solo acts too. Maybe pubs should checkout their surroundings before taking on bands. For instance, have they got kids trying to sleep upstairs, Grumpy grandad who can't hear the tele, neighbours watching Podlark? These are the common sense things I'd reccy before I booked an act if I ran a pub.


# Posted by Zero Gravity - 12/10/2016, 09:22 (GMT)

Its down to the landlord or landlady to make sure the act is not too loud, they know their pub and its surroundings.
We sound checked last Friday and whilst we thought we sounded great the landlady asked us to turn it down a little, we did, problem solved and everyone was happy.
We always ask if we are too loud or too quiet, it really isnt difficult.


# Posted by THE JACKSON KAY BAND - 12/10/2016, 10:07 (GMT)

I blame the drummers, they're all just dead loud and noisy hitting stuff dead hard. Some drummers even have the audacity to put microphones on their drums to make the noise even noisier, just in case it wasn't noisy enough in the first place. They're all Bastards the lot of em! ...And they take up all the space on stage. It's about time venues got wise to this and banned all bands with drummers.

We could also set up a website called northwest bands without drummers (or northwest acoustic and duo backing track ensembles) that should sort it.

# Posted by 4 Strings - 12/10/2016, 10:33 (GMT)

Was told by a landlord one night just before sound chaeck, that his wife has tinnitus, so can we keep the sound down!

# Posted by 4 Strings - 12/10/2016, 10:35 (GMT)

Another bug bear of mine is, (non-music related), people buying a house near an airport and complain about the noise, but don’t complain about buying the house at a lower price because of its location!

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 12/10/2016, 11:01 (GMT)

I feel sorry for the noisy drummers. They go to all that trouble to make sure the punters at 'pub across the road can hear them 'because that's where they all knobbed off to when they saw drum cases being humped in'. lol. They take up all the space and set up lights on themselves to make sure they can be seen. Then what happens??
Some ugly bastard with a sqwalking voice and a mike stand reet in front of em.
It's just not on, drummers should be at front.


# Posted by THE JACKSON KAY BAND - 12/10/2016, 11:56 (GMT)

Tel, You have very valid point there.
Im in two minds now
One thinking drummers are a misunderstood bunch who should be allowed the freedom to set up in front of the singer and do there thing! (I do like the drummers who twerl their sticks as that bit is pretty quiet, if they twerld with both sticks for the duration of all the songs that would be a lot better, and they would save loads of money for broken stick replacement.

My other mind (left brain) still thinks that they're still all a bunch of Bastards spoiling it for everyone, counting to four all the time and hitting stuff dead hard!

....and another thing, who wants to hear parriddles anyway? It's just nonsense! There's no place in modern society for drummers and their noise!

# Posted by Jaksbak - 12/10/2016, 12:10 (GMT)

Roland V-Drums,bring themselves into the present,instead of the 30's,same with acoustic guitars,they should all be smashed up,electrics the way to go.

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 12/10/2016, 12:34 (GMT)

Drums whether electric or acoustic all sound like dustbins being kicked around yer back yard anyway, but electric guitars leave acoustic standing, which is why we've acquired a Fender Tele, altogether now oooh.
Mike Wizdom drummer has best idea, do away wit Donald Duck frontman and do it thissen. Plus ya can see him.

Tel of wtf am i doing on a bus in Clitheroe fame.

# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 12/10/2016, 12:43 (GMT)

@Jackson Kay - hehe, I'm with ya!

(On a slightly less serious note - tomorrow night at Number 39 we welcome Jonathan Hartley who is the drummer with The Gary Boyle Band. Jonathan is red hot.....you can hear RLRRLRLL, RLRRLL, RLLRLR, RLRLRRLRLRLL.....and he can even start with his left hand!)

# Posted by THE JACKSON KAY BAND - 12/10/2016, 12:53 (GMT)

@ mr Cotten House,, I think you need to fix your keyboard it looks like the R & the L keys are sticking you've just typed a load of jibberish, don't know what it means.
Your drummer sounds good though, is he dead load? Can he count to four and twerl his sticks, hope you let him set up at the front. :0)

# Posted by G-IT-22 - 12/10/2016, 13:13 (GMT)

I've never heard of the place ..so it can't be that loud Tel ... !!
Will be @Queens Sunday 30th with my new not so loud trio including Jackson Kay' drummers dad who drums and puts mics on his kit , making us guitarist have to turn up to 3 ..or is it 11

# Posted by The Dawg - 12/10/2016, 13:18 (GMT)

The gig was probably cancelled because you haven't got a drummer :)

Besides, I've seen some space taken up on stage wi' big drum kits but they always leave room for the guitarists head!

# Posted by THE JACKSON KAY BAND - 12/10/2016, 13:19 (GMT)

@ GIT 22 ....I am Jackson Kay Bands drummer!

My dad is really loud and noisy, and he is brilliant at counting to four! Have a good gig.


# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 12/10/2016, 13:47 (GMT)

Ill come tut Queens only if Jackson Kay Bands drummers dad's uncles nephew is singing and is dead dead loud so the drummer has to turn up his personal 3k rig.

@ Dawg, I think it's the other way round, i think someone's been spreading vicious rumours about us having a drummer.


# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 12/10/2016, 15:49 (GMT)

@Jackson Kay's dad's uncle's dead dog - Better than that.......he has a triple bass drum pedal and a gong behind his head!

# Posted by THE JACKSON KAY BAND - 12/10/2016, 17:15 (GMT)

Ha ha .....you've seen him!

# Posted by Cheese Puff Death Squad - 12/10/2016, 17:30 (GMT)

Speaking as a drummer,I liked all the stuff about hitting things and being fucking noizey

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 12/10/2016, 17:38 (GMT)

"Its down to the landlord or landlady to make sure the act is not too loud, they know their pub and its surroundings" And then as soon as they turn their back one of the band cranks it up again. Saw it happen the other week with the fingers thrown in as the landlady walked away. Having said that there is fuckall near the Toll bar. Fishing tackle shop next door, shop across the road on the other side and the Crown straight facing. Can't see where the problem lies. Could be the real ale snobs in the Crown quaffing several halves of Holts cure for constipation bitter before shitting in their pants. They don't take kindly to loud noises at their age.


# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 13/10/2016, 12:39 (GMT)

Gary GBs, it's not just neighbouring premises, could be disgruntled employees, X's, smacked arsed pubs who do darts and dominoes instead of live bands. Maybe even a barmaid whos pissed off wit racket lol.
Aprat from that, it's Queens Open Mic tonight.


# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 13/10/2016, 13:44 (GMT)

An ex employee, a jealous partner who's other half spends too much time in the pub....lots of explanations.

Hahaha....had a run in with the local CAMRA group have we Gary?

# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 13/10/2016, 13:46 (GMT)

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 13/10/2016, 13:54 (GMT)

Haha, very true but lets face it, real ale is shite. It only tastes decent in Spoons cos it's chilled, its horse piss everywhere else. Even then it's only one in ten of them that's not got that grapefruit aftertaste.
No thanks, I'll stick to ContinenTEL lager.

# Posted by JUICY - 13/10/2016, 14:24 (GMT)

In complete agreement with you Tel (you seem to be the only person these days that I have some sort of agreement relationship with) but try telling the deluded half-pint drinkers of "Old Ted's Ancient Hogweed Special Reserve Brew" that they are as you put it, "horse piss".
You will be met with a barrage of aghast outrage almost as if you said Jazz is shit ( not getting involved with this one at the moment) or that C.D quality is better than vinyl.


# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 13/10/2016, 14:39 (GMT)

There's one of those 'Used to be a charity shop' now ale house near me, they sell strawberry flavoured beer, its over £5 a pint but terrifyingly they run out of it regularly.


# Posted by The Monkeymen - 13/10/2016, 14:41 (GMT)

Gotta say, there are some good points on this topic from both sides, but our local village pub is soon to put on a band that play too loud in a lot of venues, I have warned/asked them to be wary about the volume level.
If they bash on at their normal level the locals will drift away & the complaints will end live music at this venue.
We have played this venue on a number of occasions & I know we are on the limit with having a live (fat lad at the back) drummer.

Here's hoping for some self control.....

# Posted by JUICY - 13/10/2016, 15:15 (GMT)

@ Tel, they probably don't run out of it.
It's more likely that they tell people that so that when they put it on next time some "real ale aficionados" will be suckered into buying it.

@ Monkeymen, where is the gig that you're talking about please?


# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 13/10/2016, 17:19 (GMT)

@ Mr C. I don't actually have a problem with "real ale" . It's just the wannabe snobs that look at anything else with utter contempt that piss me off. I even like a few brews myself. However when I ask for bitter I want it to be a tan colour NOT a chemically induced (how ironic is that) Blonde. I also want it to taste of Bitter NOT Lemon Raspberry or any one of a thousand other additives ( there goes that irony again ) that make it taste like anything but bitter. Btw Was the picture of Juice with a dart in his hand taken in No 39?


# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 13/10/2016, 17:46 (GMT)

@Gary - which breweries use food colourings? Yes some flavourings can be used in fruit beers but that isn't consigned to real ale......Timmermans......now that is pretty artificial. It is all down to preference I suppose.....some people like sirloin whilst others are happy with MacDonalds.

I couldn't possibly comment, even in a light hearted way, about someone who is so easily offended.

# Posted by JUICY - 13/10/2016, 18:13 (GMT)

@ Gary (no, not the jack of all instruments master of none), the one at a proper pub.

Ironically it is, I stumbled in that place by accident one night.When I realised where I was I stuck the dart in myself as self-punishment.
Talking of ironic it amazes me that someone not far away doesn't like negative comments but is content to let sarcasm stand.
So once again a BIG +1 for the Prince of Pop.

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 13/10/2016, 18:19 (GMT)

@Mr C. You would probably be very surprised at the amount of real ale breweries who "enhance" the flavour and colouring of their beer. You may also be surprised to learn that a lot of "real ale" now has a long life additive (giving it an 8 week shelflife) I also know of at some very highly acclaimed outlets that actually pull keg beer through hand pumps on a regular basis.


# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 13/10/2016, 18:51 (GMT)

@Gary - Yes I am aware of the keg through hand pumps trick, that has been going on for years, I didn't know that it still went on. There used to be a sneaky button! All I can say is thank goodness for Hopstar! We are very lucky here in East Lancs.

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 13/10/2016, 19:21 (GMT)

Gary CH, I'm intrigued. Just what is this mysterious sneaky button you speak of?
I'm sure our muso friends and fans from all genres on NWB would like to know too.
I'm also a regular tryer of real ales when I'm recommended one by the said snobs..lol and one or two have passed between Wagontowns collective lips at 39 bar.
However, like Gary GBs I don't want my beer to taste of anything but beer therefore I'm never over the moon about them.


# Posted by Mr Cottonhouse - 13/10/2016, 19:44 (GMT)

The hand pump is just a dummy pump. Put the glass under the nozzle and press the button and beer magically comes out!

I don't even like power assisted pumps (a bit like power steering.... you don't have to pull very hard for the beer to come out).

I don't want my beer to taste of anything other than beer which is why I drink beer. I don't mind continental beers because they taste of something (beer). Can anybody justify John Smiths Smooth though?

# Posted by WAGONTOWN - 13/10/2016, 19:51 (GMT)

Ahh right got ya. I don't mind John Smiths actually, reminds me of chilled tea, tasteless, which is bob on fer me, and at least you know what you're getting as opposed to the luke warm 'real' stuff.
Must dash, open mic now where's me fookin earplugs?
sTella artella.

# Posted by Wizdom - 13/10/2016, 22:22 (GMT)

@Jackson Kay band both you and your dad can be as loud as you like for me
you are both great drummers :-)

# Posted by G-IT-22 - 13/10/2016, 23:37 (GMT)

I drink vimto (that I bring to gigs) rather than brewery 'pot noodle' like john Smith's & Tetley ..lager is even less reviewed!! Hopefully we up uppermill Oldham ..land of Morris men ..shud be decent beer ..Wot was the question again ????

# Posted by Wizdom - 14/10/2016, 00:51 (GMT)

@ Tel thanks for the plug lol :-)

# Posted by GEORGIA BROWNS - 14/10/2016, 19:17 (GMT)

Mere amateurs the ones you speak of Mr C. It is now all too easy to link a Keg up to a hand pump and actually pull the beer through. Bypassing the coolers of course. 8 out of 10 corduroy staining participants cannot tell the difference.

I'm with you on the John Smiths.


ps Who threw the dart?

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