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Posted By : Shep | Comments : 11

Silly Prices?


Dear NWBers

see it all the time on here "No Silly Prices" .... what exactly is a silly price?

Discuss!

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# Posted by Untidy Liars Covers Duo - 14/10/2016, 21:51 (GMT)

it means don't ask for more than £25 each if there are more than 3 of you. If you are a solo then don't ask for more than £80.

Seriously it's very hard to judge what one venue thinks is a good fee and what another thinks is too much. We can't travel to each venue before we contact them. I always try to see what the size of the pub is on facebook/twitter or even on whatpub but usually they fill their posts with pictures of groups of people sticking their tongues our and adverts for the rugby or footy so I don't always have a clue.

I used to put the fee we'd like and wait until they came back with a counter offer but it put some places off and I know with some we could have asked for more because when we did the gig the place was rammed to the rafters! It's rock and roll, all part of the damn dance!


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# Posted by Roj (Black Rose) - 15/10/2016, 11:00 (GMT)

We have a minimum fee, if that's a silly price we don't do the gig.


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# Posted by Dan Evans - 15/10/2016, 11:55 (GMT)

As a solo I charge a minimum fee for two hours performance, if they dont like it I dont do it simple.


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# Posted by Hush - 15/10/2016, 12:52 (GMT)

Ditto what Roj and Dan Evans, says. It's very simple really unless you are so desperate to gig. The confusion some people have is there are alot of bands/acts out there just happy to get a gig/audience, I call them more hobby bands, although, I still enjoy it. Our thoughts are if the fee was that low everywhere then it wouldn't be worth doing the gig, then We'd probably do it for nothing but perform our own songs not covers and do it less often for our own fun, and give out or sell CD's of our own recordings.
Interestingly This weekend is Lancaster Music festival, which i must admit is a great draw to the town, and the pubs and clubs will greatly benefit from this weekend. But most bands/acts are playing for beer tokens, there are a few getting paid but a small percentage, So you have to ask where is the money going, what is the standard like. And if you are bothered about being part of it?
Doesn't take a genius to work out what a good band should charge, We tend to gig within an hours travel of our hometown Lancaster. So generally speaking a gig is 6-8hrs work, So it's not rocket science, what a band should be charging. Howerever market forces come into this and because there are alot of hobby bands out there, willing to play for FA this blurs and distorts the real price of what a semi-pro band should be charging. Plus what a venues is willing or prepared to pay.


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# Posted by Shep - 15/10/2016, 14:22 (GMT)

Thanks everyone - I have to agree with you all.

I have to admit that when people put that in the advert I move on straight away - if I asked for a pint and then said "no silly prices" to a landlord they'd show me the door (or window!).

Cheers all


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# Posted by JUICY - 15/10/2016, 15:24 (GMT)

I used to be in a comedy show band and we commanded silly prices.


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# Posted by Shep - 15/10/2016, 16:59 (GMT)

;-)


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# Posted by The Accused - 15/10/2016, 21:16 (GMT)

We have a discounted first gig offer and then the price goes up to our usual fee, we sometimes do deals regarding drinks As well.

We've had a few counter offers off pubs when we've told them the price but we just say no thanks if they take the piss.

Some venues think that they are doing you a favour by offering you exposure, a cut of the door or £200 etc it winds me up, a landlord of a very popular village pub that does live music once told me that he doesn't pay over £150 for a band and still had the cheek to say do you want to give me a list of dates you're available.... I ask ya?


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# Posted by HINDLEY ARMS (Shelley@Iain) - 16/10/2016, 12:52 (GMT)

As a pub a venue though we still have to pay a fee which at the end of the night leaves a few pence over the bar or this could leave more and more closed doors. It'd be great to pay every act £1000 each gig but that's just not the real world in the pub trade.


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# Posted by Hush - 16/10/2016, 13:54 (GMT)

HINDLEY ARMS (Shelley@Iain) @ It is difficult your trade, as are alot of other trades, It would be easy to turnover £5million but making a profit is considerably more difficult. And I guess it's what you as someone who hires bands Values within your budget to make a profit, And I know that the majority of acts/bands respect that. I do understand as I am self-employed. And I suppose it's down to the act/band what they value as well and what they are prepared to perform for. It's what suits all. I know Hush don't mind, if our minimum wasn't what you were prepared to pay, It's fair enough and understanable. Nobody's right or wrong.


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# Posted by The Dawg - 17/10/2016, 12:46 (GMT)

Silly prices usually means; set up in the corner and move the tables and chairs first. Stick the drummer next to the open fire and under the massive TV that has the footy on! In other words; Avoid.


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